Next: “LA X” (Episode 6-01/02)

“LA X” was a fitting opener to the final season of “LOST.” It had a reassuring focus on character with a generous topping of mythology. It had moments of strong emotional resonance, and a few gasp-worthy reveals. And it sets the stage for the epic battle between Jacob and the Man In Black that has apparently simmered beneath much of what we’ve been studying for the past several years. Sure, with yet another storytelling “twist,” we have no idea what’s going on… but since when has that been a problem?

Okay. So Jen’s a little nonplussed with the “parallel storyline” structure, and I can see why. On one hand, it’s clever. We get to see both outcomes of the Jughead argument. And the little differences we spot range from amusing hat-tips to a deeper exploration of a person’s fate. On the other, it seems just a little cheap to not commit to one answer… at least this late in the game. It also raises the troubling specter of having to switch between two worlds for several more episodes, when we really want the writers to just pick a path and let the rubber finally, finally hit the road.

And intellectually, I can see many reasons to dismiss or even dislike the universe where Oceanic Flight 815 lands safely in Los Angeles. Through that lens, they’ve thrown out five years of character development and regression. So I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Sure, some of the touches were more fan bait than plot (Frogurt at the taxi stand, Doctor Arzt being annoying), but other moments felt right: Jack and Locke talking at the airport lost and found, with Jack taking interest in Locke’s condition. Jin returning to his darker, meaner self, and Sun already rebelling. Sawyer flirting with Kate, but more tellingly, not interfering with her escape from the airport. Hurley being confident and lucky. And Charlie, once running from death, now almost exhaustedly chasing it. I guess I’m more curious about the “what if” scenario than I thought I was.

Besides. The island is underwater? A development that comes about sometime after New Otherton is built? (A development that, sadly, could’ve used a few more days in the CGI rendering farm?) Just like watching a magic show, independent of everything else, I now simply have to see how they explain that. My guess is that it sank when Ben moved the island, a moment that is at the other end of whatever branching we’re now seeing. But I can’t even begin to explain what I actually mean.

Meanwhile, the new on-island world (universe, storyline, timeline, what have you) so far certainly seems to be custom-built to feed the fans obsessed with the mythology of the show. “I’m sorry you had to see me like that,” says Unlocke, while Richard says, incredulously, “You!” If the Man in Black and the smoke monster are one and the same, we now have a whole new prism through which to reexamine the last five seasons. I only hope things hold up under such scrutiny.

Learning what was in the guitar case so early in the season was a pleasant surprise, and the giant Ankh was certainly an impressive prop, regardless of the fact that a sealed envelope would’ve probably worked just as well.

Finally, we see the temple, and meet a whole new group of characters. It’s a good thing Hiroyuki Sanada is so good at being mysterious, because these original recipe Others (shunning technology and performing rituals) could very well have been too much, too late. Instead, Sanada seemed a perfect disciple and ally of Jacob, and through him, the Others again seemed to be a tribe to be reckoned with. An intimidating air that was reminiscent of the first two seasons, before Kate found the costumes.

What of the temple spring? Apparently it’s supposed to heal, as the Island itself does, though that power went missing as the water turned cloudy. Sayid, instead of being revived, apparently died. But that was likely always Jacob’s plan. I bet that Jacob now has a new agent or vessel in Sayid, given the unfamiliar voice with which Sayid asked, “What happened?”

But with word that Jacob is dead, the Others at the Temple prepare for battle with “him.” Their flare alerts Alpert, who’s sadly pummeled by Unlocke/Man In Black, and I guess the battle is on.

Notes and Notions:

  • I guess we had to get “closure” with Juliet, but having to basically see her die twice was wrenching. Josh Holloway, hands down, gave the performance of the evening.
  • From beyond the grave, Juliet says, “It worked.” So can she see the other timeline? Is it even, really, another timeline? After all, in Los Angeles, it’s 2004. On the island, it’s 2007 or so. Maybe the writers can somehow connect the two into one single timeline? Does that even make sense?
  • The Man in Black’s tribute to the late John Locke was a bittersweet one. He spoke the truth about our sad, defeated friend, and our would-be hero. But perhaps not surprisingly, Terry O’Quinn’s “menacing” look is incredibly effective, and I’ll gladly let John Locke go in favor of seeing what the actor does with a whole new soul.
  • The Man in Black wants to get off the island, and go “home.” I guess it’s fair to ask where or what “home” is, but I think the real story is why he (and likely Jacob) are trapped on the island. His reference to Alpert’s chains, meanwhile, hint strongly at the suspected link between Alpert and the Black Rock.
  • Hurley can see Jacob, but Jin can’t, though Jacob touched them both. Therefore, Hurley is special, and seeing the dead is simply his thing. Indeed, he seems almost too suddenly fine with it, barely reacting when Jacob tells him he died three hours prior, and talking warmly to the recently deceased Sayid. Miles, too, got to let his freak flag fly, and this time his communion with the dead came with a great deal of dramatic flourish. Sometimes, I can’t believe this is the same show we were watching in Season 1.
  • Great lighter moments. Hurley saying he knows how to use a gun, or arguing about trademarking the word “Outback.” Locke telling Boone he’s not pulling his leg, and Boone telling Locke he’d follow him to stay safe on a plane. And, of course, a Sawyer nickname: Earhart.
  • Richard said, “Asking me what’s in the shadow of the damn statue doesn’t mean you’re in charge.” He flippantly referred to a line that, up until now, was infused with significance and weight. Kind of like, “Live together, die alone.”
  • Fun with pointy things! Jack was again looking for a pen to save someone’s life. And how great is it that a character named Bram dies via a stake through his heart?
  • Book: “Fear and Trembling” by Soren Kierkegaard, a retelling of the biblical story of Abraham sacrificing Isaac.
  • Locations: The Temple interior is on the Hawaii Film Studio sound stage, but the impressive exterior is in Manoa Valley. The plane interior, and the collapsed hatch tunnel, was also on the studio lot. The Swan site is in the jungles of Heeia Kea in Kaneohe, and the foot of the four toed statue was Makua Beach. LAX is, of course, Honolulu International Airport.

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397 Responses to “Next: “LA X” (Episode 6-01/02)”

  1. Glenn says:

    @Fernando
    I love your crackpot theory about the timeline of the ash breaking. The only hole I can find in it is: Why did MIB wait until Locke was gone from the cabin before telling him about the “work he had to do?” Seems like he could have just told him to break the ash on the way out. Also seems like he could have conveyed that message without Ben being privy to it. And who knows? Maybe he did, and the ash was already broken, and his message to Locke as he was lying in the purge mass grave was about other things he had told him.

    But on the whole, I like it, and it ties in nicely to my own thoughts — one of which is that prior to the appearance Christian made to Claire, it was Jacob who was appearing as Christian. Seems to me that all his appearances prior to that were more or less benevolent in nature — sending Vincent to wake him up in the pilot, and later helping Jack find water when it was desperately needed. Plus, remember that Jacob had relatively recently “touched” Jack back in L.A. To me that means that for whatever reason, Jacob had a vested interest in Jack “doing well” on the island or something (whatever that means). Also note that Christian was always wearing white shoes in those early sightings — BUT AFTER THE LOCKE-VISITING-THE-CABIN EPISODE, WE NEVER SAW THE WHITE SHOES ON CHRISTIAN AGAIN.

    The first time Christian appears in different garb is when he appears to Claire. To me that is the clear demarcation point — the first time that Christian appeared under the influence of Smokey/MIB/Nemesis. And to my eyes, from that point forward, Christian became a much more overt manipulator — pushing John Locke towards his own desired ends. Watch him — he seems to be much more directive from that point on — directing JL to his own ends. Prior to that, he was trapped in the cabin, with less capacity to impact the events of the island (not saying he still couldn’t impact things as Ol’ Smokey, but just not as broadly as he would have liked.) Once he was freed from the cabin, his power and manipulation-ability factor rose. And, as you pointed out, something in John seems to have changed after that first visit. (I am going to re-watch that episode to see if I agree with you on that one.)

    All in all, your crackpot theory fills in a lot of the blanks on my own crackpot theory! Thanks for the ideas!

    Oh, and by the way, a corollary to this crackpot theory is that if it’s true, then MIB probably is holding Claire somewhere on the island, either against her will, or not. Because that would have been Smokey-Nemesis in the cabin with Claire, not Jacob.

    @Rich in Cleveland — I don’t know if we actually SAW John Locke pick up some ash or not. I’m going to rewatch that episode tonight.

  2. Glenn says:

    @Russell & @Yann:
    I agree that MIB/Nemesis is the scanning/manipulating Smoke Monster. But, I’m not sold yet on the fact that only MIB is able to take the form of the Smoke Monster — I think that Jacob can take that form too.

    For starters, it’s hard to believe that MIB/Nemesis can have free reign inside the Temple, the stronghold of Jacob and his followers. My intuition keeps telling me that the Smokey that “judged” Ben was actually Jacob, “greasing the wheels” to his own death by telling Ben that he absolutely MUST obey Locke at all costs. Remember — Locke appeared VERY surprised to hear Ben relay the message he received. Not just slightly surprised. If he wasn’t surprised because it was actually him, then it was one hell of an acting job — and a big red herring by Team Darlton. He even said out loud something to the effect of “Well, I guess it will be easier to convince you to do what I need you to do after all” — with very convincing facial expressions.

    Maybe Jacob’s version of the Smoke Monster IS the judger (why else would Ben make such a big deal about being judged?), while MIB’s version is the Scan-For-Manipulation-Potential.

    Throw it on the crackpot possibilities pile! 🙂

  3. Yann From France says:

    @Glenn: the circule HAD been broken way before otherwise how could smokey be outside and “help me” inside…
    He played Eko during the whole season2.
    No but Christian has been met by Jack only and Smokey probably used the corpse from the coffin description (as with Yemi), but Claire if scanned might have brought other “incarnations” of Christian.
    Christian does tell Locke he needs to sacrifice and tells Sun she needs to follow Locke, just has his daughter told Ben to follow Locke… that does not sound good for now but who knows.
    Well you talk about “acting” form Locke? A MIB you mean no? I know it’s hard to tell the difference… which would prove is a good actor! Remember “You speak to me as if I were your brother/John Looke”

  4. Yann From France says:

    The Lost video game was called “Via Domus”: Latin for what can be translated to “way home”. The end is very intrigging (no spoiler). I think I should take an other look at that.

  5. Joe in Texas says:

    Quick thought. If Locke really died, why did they have to take his body back to the Island? Was there some real purpose? i.e. Will we see him “resurrect” later? Or was it just to keep the story going??

  6. Nancy says:

    I’m podcast starved!!! Hoping you have yours ready soon. You guys can have a life later, we need you!!! 🙂

  7. Yann From France says:

    @Joe: Locke appearing from nowhere would have caused trouble for Ben to follow his order… But if he thought it was resurected Locke why should he doubt him instead of fear him (and we know he already feared John’s influence since he shot him because of that).

  8. Carol from Boston says:

    Christian questions

    1. Where was fake locke when Christian was talking to Sun and Lapidus at the dharma camp?

    2. Since Christian can touch and hold things, why did he refuse to help John? Why couldn’t he touch him?

    @Glen – good observation re: Christian’s clothes, I haven’t noticed the shoes, I noticed the suit jacke and tie missing, just couldn’t pinpoint when that changed.

    I haven’t been able to rewatch season 5 so my memories aren’t fresh about that season.

    I am rewatching the premiere, and I am at the beginning, I have changed my mind about Sawyer, he looks sincere about trying to help Hurley instead of taking his money. I also caught Kate stealing Jack’s pen.

    Had to stop watching till later, too many things to do today. I know that many of you have watched the episodes over and over, I haven’t, so thanks for helping me and pointing things out to me. I am watching the episode again with so many more things in mind.

  9. Carol from Boston says:

    Ryan and Jen – Good luck with the podcast this week and keeping it under two hours, the board alone is overwhelming, I can’t imagine how many more emails and phone calls you have to sift through as well.

    Thanks in advance for all the hard work.

  10. Ryan says:

    Nancy, we’re working on it! We’ve already recorded the first half or so, and that’s without the feedback or the forward cabin.

    Our podcasts will continue to be released on Sundays. With the new Tuesday night broadcasts of “LOST,” we know our shows are now closer than ever to the next new episode, but we figure we’ll just position ourselves as a good day-before primer for it.

    Frankly, the web is chock full of “initial reaction” and day after podcasts, so we’ve always enjoyed taking the extra time to put out a podcast with as much consideration (and especially great feedback) as we can each week. Thanks for listening!

  11. ManilaRaf says:

    I’ve been thinking about the episode title, LA X.

    Maybe it was a clue to the two different timelines. One takes place in LA, the other on The Island (“X”). The fact that LAX was the destination of 815 just cemented it.

  12. Connie in Oregon says:

    Joe in Texas-Locke’s dead body may have some ultimate purpose, but I think it’s main duty was to function as a “holy crap!” generator and proof that the real Locke is dead and the walking-around Locke is an impostor. Some of my favorite moments are from recent episodes when they dumped out dead Locke (ha ha “deadlock”) in front of Richard and especially Ben Linus! Ruh-roh!

  13. Carol from Boston says:

    @Ryan, I agree, a later podcast gives you a lot more time to really figure out the episode and get more feedback. Plus as a parent myself, I know how difficult it is to get anything done during the school/work week.

    Plus this will give everyone something fun to listen to on their Monday morning commute, or something to listen to on Sunday to fend off those Monday blues.

  14. Yann From France says:

    @Carol: 1_I asked myself that in season5… It goes like this: Sun knocks out Ben and go to the Island, we hear smoke monster sound then whispers then Christian appears to Jin and Sun and he tells them to wait for John. John is with the 2nd flight that night (and all wonder where he came from) wake Ben the next day and then go to big Island… So yes, Christian might be John/MIB/Smokey…
    2_If he helped him turn the wheel he would have gone out Island and couldn’t do what he wanted. The game seems to be about “letting everyone do what they want” and the one that makes is best case win. “You kill him/no you have choice”.

    @Ryan: I agree with Carol! That is insane! But it was the first time they did a 2hour premiere and the last season one to add more… and they add a whole lot of questions on top of that. After almost a year we did not have a knew episode and now everyone is just going insane I guess. But I am sure things will be more “quiet” next week.
    Cheers! Cheers! Cheers! Lost is still so great!!! You are all so great! This is just so much fun!!!

  15. Connie in Oregon says:

    JSM-I had completely forgotten Cindy’s comment in the temple and I like your explanation of what it might mean. I think it will be important.

  16. Gary says:

    I mentioned this at the time but nobody picked up on it, but when the Oceanic 6 returned to the island in Season 5 Jack waked Kate after dragging her out of the lake/river. The scene was replayed at the end of the episode and her line was different. In one she said ‘are we there’ and in the other otherwise identical scene she said ‘what happened’.

    I’m thinking two timelines right there. Can someone with the DVD check the episode and confirm?

  17. Bill says:

    This is a question no one has addressed. In season 5, Locke turned the donkey wheel and left the island with the mission to bring the Oceanic 6 back. During his unsuccessful coaxing tour, he DID have use of his legs (he even drove a car) although he had a severe leg injury. How was that possible outside of the island?

  18. Joe in Texas says:

    @Yann Ah I see, thanks!

    @Connie_in_Oregon Thanks for your reply!! BTW, almost typed “Alaska”! lol

  19. Joe in Texas says:

    @Ryan – No worries on the later podcast! Keep up the outstanding work! 🙂

  20. Yann From France says:

    @Bill: His spine was healed, he had a broken leg off Island (due to the fall) and since he was being shot at (and since you drive automatics in the USA) I think he drove with one good leg (and poorly since he crashed moments later).

  21. Carol from Boston says:

    @Yann – Didn’t John want help standing up and Christian wouldn’t do that as well? I trust your memory more than mine.

    @Gary – I am a bit confused what do you mean the scene was shown twice when they landed in 1977? Why at the beginning of the episode and the end?

    @Bill – Only one leg was broken, so he could use a cane with the cast, though he was in a wheelchair sometimes as well.

    Note to self – Find time to rewatch Season 5!! I only had time to rewatch the last four episodes.

  22. Kait says:

    Did anyone notice when MIB/Locke ripped off the piece of tapestry and cleaned off his knife. Was this the same bit of tapestry that Ilana’s crew found stuck to the wall with a knife in Jacob’s cabin in season 5? She takes it off the wall and declares that Jacob had not been there in a long time- and I remember wondering why the fabric was affixed to the wall as a message. Hummm, I guess I will have to rewatch that episode!

  23. Yann From France says:

    @Carol: Yes, indead. And yet JohnMIB (John/JohnX/JohnMIB… that is insane) helped Ben out of the Smokey cavern with a rope. I wonder… maybe he knew he was about to kill Jacob when he was John in 2007 and did not fear anything while back in ??? when he tricked John playing Christian he feared that interfering would lead to a punition from Jacob. (All of this is boggus I think but if the writing make a mistake I will come up with the most stupid ideas to help them get away with that… I am warming up)

  24. Ed from NCe O says:

    Questions (Apparently) Answered:

    Who is the Man in Black?
    Where do the Others get their ninja skills?

  25. Carol from Boston says:

    @Yann – I am not convinced that Christian is Smokey. Jack saw Christian and hadn’t been “scanned”. I remember smokey in the pilot but I don’t remember it scanning Jack for memories, just killing the pilot. Has Smokey ever Scanned Jack or Sawyer?

    Remember the horse that Kate saw? Why would smokey manifest into something to comfort her? I wonder if the island has the power to manifest people or animals, or if this is only a Jacob or Smokey power.

    Another puzzle is in the episode “The other woman” when Goodwin’s wife appeared to Kate to give a message from Ben. How did she get a message from Ben, who was isolated at the time? I also wondered if she was actually alive since Juliet seemed very surprised to see her. I still wonder why Juliet didn’t give all her “other” knowledge to Sawyer when they were together.

  26. Aaron says:

    I was talking about Desmond earlier today, when I had a thought:

    Being Scottish we kept a close eye on Henry Cusick’s portrayal of Desmond early on in Lost, and we were surprised that he used the term “brother” regularly. Seemed strange given that it’s rarely used over here and Henry Cusick is Scottish. When they gave him the monk backstory it made sense of course. But in LA X he refers to Jack as “mate” on two occasions. This had us nodding in approval as it’s much more common here, but it occurs to me that this could well be another one of the “changes” in the divergent time-line. Perhaps this Desmond was never a monk? If the H-Bomb went off in the 70’s then Ellie wouldn’t have made it off the island, and wouldn’t have met Brother Campbell – we don’t yet know about their connection but it may well involve Desmond in some way.

    Anyway, just thought that this was a minor allusion to a possible change in the timeline that people might not notice!

    Here’s a creepy fact for you all as well. Henry Cusick has a son called “Esau”.

  27. Aaron says:

    @Carol from Boston
    I’m also not convinced that Christian is a smokey manifestation. His body never showed up, and as we know from the Locke-corpse, smokey leaves bodies behind.

    I think Christian came back to life and is actually wandering around the island in his own body. I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a flashback showing Jacob visiting (and touching) Christian.

  28. Bill says:

    @ Yann & Carol – It was always assumed that certain individuals had mixed feelings about leaving the island. Principally Kate, being a fugitive and Locke because he would be back in the wheelchair. When was Locke told his “gift” was permanent?

  29. Yann From France says:

    @Aaron: Wonderfull post about Desmond… Him not being a monk would be quite interesting (how did he met Penny then? unless he knew she was the love of his live and so skipped his first “wedding/going priest” thing). Esau Cusick… Not that common that’s for sure!
    Yemi’s corpse was missing from the plane just before Smokey appeared through this form and telling Eko he is not his brother (before that he mostly appeared as dreams)… It means that either he hides the body so that no doubt can comes to mind about his “fake” identity or sometimes he doesn’t.
    @Bill: Kate wanted to leave because she likes to be on the run. She even still another person passeport and fix it for her to make it back off Island. While Locke who was looking for a “Walkabout” and “Orientation” found all that on Island and thought he should not leave, not due to his legs but due to the way of life that was offered to him. “Don’t mistake coincidence for fate”. His back was fixed after a crash and he now had the life he wanted… fate my friends? MIB made sure he did not think it was coincidence!

  30. Carol from Boston says:

    @Bill, imo I don’t think Locke would have left at all but he was told that only he should turn the donkey wheel to make the Island stop skipping and time and bring everybody back to the island. Fake Locke told Richard to tell the real John Locke that he had to leave the island and bring back his friends and “die” in order to help everyone.

    Somebody please refresh my memory, how did Ben and Locke find out in Season 4 that they had to save the island by turning the wheel. I think it was Christian and Claire at the cabin with John right? He told Ben and Ben said it that it had to be him that turned the wheel instead of John as a punishment because once you left the island you could never come back. Is this correct? I haven’t seen that episode since it orginally aired.

  31. I don’t know if anyone posted this but…

    What if when Juliette said “It Worked”, she meant she was able to get pregnant on the island….

  32. Rich in Cleveland says:

    @ Carol & Aaron
    I concur that the apparition of Christian is not Smokey–EXCEPT when he shows up to convince John to turn the frozen donkey wheel. I recall the ghostly sound effect that accompanied his entrance. In addition, the fact that Christian refused any assistance indicates that Locke needed to do this of his own free will and this somehow is in accordance with the rules by which MIB is bound.

    @Carol
    Perhaps I should have read down further. It was Christian who told Locke that he needed to move the island and then Ben ran with that further instruction.

    @Aaron. Great, great note about the mate/brother difference, my kinsman. I’ve always thought Desmond’s accent was a bit off (unlike the girl he stood up for Penny) and wonder what you think about that.

    @Yann
    How do you explain Dave? There’s no way smokey could have been in possession of his body. I’m not sure how much smokey needs bodies so much as he needs access to scanned memories to work his magic. This may explain why he kills the first member of any new party to arrive, a la the pilot and (?) French girl besides Rousseau.

    So many great posts! I salute you all and can’t wait for the new podcast tomorrow.

  33. Retrojunkie from Australia says:

    (Great work with the comments guys. I think your gonna be giving Ryan & Jen A LOT to read through this year)

    I am fairly confident the LA X reality will be a reset that occurs following the events of the series’ main reality (oceanic crash – oceanic 6 – time loop – final S6 battle etc)

    One of the main things I like to hear from these podcasts is to know what facts the creators have given us and what they have said. In this regard, some of the answers they gave on Jimmy Kimmel are probably quite relevant (“Walt & Michael not on plane – intentional”)

    The cracked window glass beside Jack in the opening, and the cut on his neck, I would say are tiny remnants of the realities being reconciled/reversed.

    Also, the very interesting Jorge Garcia podcast (in which they analyze the script pre-shooting i think!) mentions that in the shot with Jack on the plane, the look on his face is meant to be of ‘strange familiarity’ or something along those lines.

    Q/ Have the creators confirmed that ‘the purge’ was to be seen in the finale or towards the end of the show. Because if so, I would be very interested how this would occur

    (i had always imagined a purge being, all of our losties dying on the island, so that they could re-exist within a new, corrected reality)

  34. Bill says:

    The differences on Flight 815 (now and then) are obvious and intentional. Something or someone changed the past. I always wondered where Farday and his female assistant/friend time-traveled to and if they altered anything on their trips. The experiences messed him up pretty badly and put her in a coma.

  35. Yann From France says:

    @Carol and Rich: Of course Ben used the “turning the wheel” and we saw why at the end of the episode where we see him of Island: Vengence against Charles Widmore and killing his daughter. Until then he didn’t want to leave his position as a leader but it was “the shape of things to come”… Ben would kill because he thought things were not right.
    @Rich: Yes and he gains access to the dead body memories also (as he told Ben in this episode). Now why he tried to play Dave to kill Hugo seems more evident than ever… When did Hurley get scanned? And when did Kate got scanned (due to the horse)… I would say back when the Monster tried to bring Locke with him at the end of season1. We saw in last episode that he seems able to “flash” and “fight” simultanously
    @Retrojunkie: We saw the Purge at the end of “The Man Behind The Curtain”… The Others used the Tempest gaz to kill all the DHARMA folks.

  36. Retrojunkie from Australia says:

    @Rana
    Yes, i know we had scenes showing the Purge. I just wouldn’t have been surprised if we experienced the events in an even more immidiate sense.

    For a good period of S5, I felt our losties would experience the purge first hand and have their lives ended during it (so as to provide conclusion to a time-loop in which they can not ever meet themselves post-crash… anyways that was just a silly theory)

  37. Carol from Boston says:

    Okay the house is empty, I am finally home so I am going to rewatch the episode again and then listen to the podcast, I couldn’t download it earlier.

    I am so excited to have the opportunity to watch the show without interruptions. This isn’t always easy with 3 kids.

  38. Bonita in Atlanta says:

    @Ilias
    I agree, I noticed the S2 folks were notably absent from promos, etc..

  39. Kathryn from Sydney, Australia says:

    Did anyone catch the annoucement in the airport for passengers for the São Paulo/Brazil flight? Perhaps a reference to Nikki and Paulo?

  40. Carol from Boston says:

    After watching the premiere again, I still wonder about the “goodness” of Jacob since his followers are so violent all in the name of being the “good guys”. When Hurley and Jack etc. showed up at the temple the others were willing to shoot them no questions asked, and beat them for no reason. Only people on Jacob’s list will be spared, and if you aren’t on that list, they don’t think twice about killing.

    I don’t know if it is really all black and white. Some of smokey’s actions are bad, yet he has let people go. Plus fake locke’s final remark of “I am disappointed in all of you” means something.

    It will be interesting to see where this story goes.

    @Aaron- I didn’t catch the “mates” I did hear him say “brotha” at the beginning which made Jack look at him again.

  41. Aaron says:

    @Carol, hah, thanks for that. So much for that theory!

  42. greenberry says:

    Wow — almost 400 entries — thought I should contribute again to that — I hope that the character of “Kate” can gain back some of her self-respect this season — she has always been one of my favorites, and I noticed that she gets bashed quite a bit on this site — and while I am very sad for Sawyer, I personally found Juliet extremely annoying, suspect, and self-serving, and am quite happy to take a break from her —

  43. SM says:

    I am rewatching this episode tonight. Anyone know why Jack’s neck was bleeding when he went into the bathroom on the plane?

  44. Aaron says:

    @SM I believe that will make sense towards the end of the show. I’m fairly sure they’ll make a show of him getting a neck wound, and we’ll suddenly click that it’s carried over into the divergent universe.

  45. Carol from Boston says:

    @greenberry – I agree. Hopefully Kate will stop running from everything.

    @Aaron – Yup, makes sense. Poor Jack and Ben and Sawyer spend 90% of the show bruised and bloody.

  46. Candice says:

    Way late to this party, but just had a thought about the name of the episode (not sure if it’s been mentioned here before as I haven’t read all comments). Remember what Daniel said when he was hatching his plan to detonate the hydrogen bomb: x=variable and the variables are PEOPLE. So, LA X could be understood as LA Variables. Hm…

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