Trans 2010-03-21: “Recon” (Episode 6-08)

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This edition of “The Transmission” covers “Recon,” the eighth hour and midpoint of Season 6. We share our thoughts, including notes on Lost Filming Locations. Then we turn it over to “You All Everybody,” our brilliant listeners. After a new track from The Others LOST Band, we report on the last three weeks of production in the “Forward Cabin.”

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  • 0:00:17 Introduction
  • 0:01:42 Recap: “LOST” in Eight Minutes
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  • 0:09:13 Reaction & Analysis
  • 0:37:39 Feedback: You All Everybody
  • 1:07:44 “Try Another Stick” by The Others LOST Band”
  • 1:10:41 Spoilers: The Forward Cabin
  • 1:26:12 Closing

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18 Responses to “Trans 2010-03-21: “Recon” (Episode 6-08)”

  1. Carol from Boston says:

    Yay! Can’t wait to listen. I wish I didn’t live on the east coast so I could hear you on the Autism Speaks Podcast with Jack and Jay at 1:30 am est. Have fun!!

  2. Side street porkchop says:

    the door on the Sub had “2 Locks”
    LOL

  3. Enchanter in NM says:

    I haven’t posted before, because someone usually beats me to any comments I’d make, but I thought this episode had major hints at Unlocke’s identity, and only one poster on the episode thread suggested it, so I’ll lay it out here.

    When Unlocke slaps Claire, he tells her “This is completely inappropriate. Alright? Now… you go over there. I’ll deal with you in a minute. Go.” His voice is low, a little frustrated, and, to me, sounds a little embarrassed.

    That’s because Claire is Unlocke’s crazy mother. That is, Unlocke is Aaron.

    Also consider how conciliatory Unlocke’s is in his approach to Kate. He obviously want to spend time with her and make a connection. He’s not being manipulative, rather he opens up to her, trying to make her understand. He’s hoping that the woman who raised him for three years, the foster mother he can dimly recollect, will understand and sympathize with him. It reminded me of how Kate hoped to get her own mother to understand her actions.

    Then Unlocke confirms that he had a disturbed mother who caused him growing pains, then deep in thought, says “Now, Aaron has a crazy mother.” Why make that leap unless he’s thinking about himself.

  4. Steven in Bathurst says:

    Enchanter in NM, I like it. Of course, to play out like that requires some kind of time travel to get Aaron back to the distant past but I suppose that wouldn’t be such a stretch for a show like Lost. It would certainly explain the coyness of giving us MiB’s name. There has to be a reason that his name has not been mentioned, which is a topic that has dropped off the discussion radar in recent weeks.

    I’m personally trying to steer clear of theorising about the minor details because I know that they probably won’t get to it but, for old times sake, here’s a theory about Charlotte’s drawer search that came to me while listening to the podcast. People seem to think that there was more to Charlotte’s t-shirt getting than simply looking for a t-shirt. It did seem like she was searching for something. What we know about Charlotte is that her appearance on the freighter team was driven by a desire to understand her island past. In the flash-sideways, it’s highly likely that she is equally driven to understand her past. So perhaps it’s not quite a co-incidence that she ended up with Sawyer. Perhaps her investigations lead her to Miles’s Dad so in fact she works for him not just because they are both scientists but perhaps because she knows he used to work for Dharma and she is using the job to learn more information.

    Then, what if (and doesn’t this all sound very speculative) she was interested in Sawyer/James Ford because she has a photo from 1970s Dharma in which she recognises both Miles and Sawyer. Of course if that were true she wouldn’t have kicked Sawyer out when he turned up with his beer and flower but it’s an interesting thought that there is more to Charlotte than just the co-incidental meeting with Sawyer.

    Perhaps what is most interesting is that this theory has made me realise that one way to integrate the two story threads is by having flash sideways characters made aware of their role in the Dharma Initiative back in the 1970s. If the two timelines diverged from the explosion of the atomic bomb or some time after that, then Sawyer, Miles, Jin, Jack, Hurley, Kate and so on were still in 1970s Dharma in flash sideways world. Imagine alt-Sawyer seeing a photo from that era of him standing next to Miles. That would make him become very curious about the island in flash sideways world, which might ultimately lead him to the island. I doubt, with so few episodes to go, that this will be the direction it takes but it is certainly an interesting idea.

  5. Mimi says:

    Ryan – I’m surprised that your problem w/thinking Widmore killed the 319 survivors is that there wasn’t enough TIME for him to do it. Seriously? With Lost… you think the writers would concern themselves with the “time” it would take?

    However, if you do think they went out of their way to show us that the bodies have been dead for awhile, then maybe they were killed by the canoe people in a time jump.

    Did the smoke monster tell Ben to meet him on Hydra Island (in Dr. Linus) because he wanted the Widmore clan to kill him along with the 319 survivors?

    I too thought the same thing that Kyle did about Smokie/Flocke. The smoke monster keeps residual memories of the people who’s form it takes (we know this because Flocke tells Ben what John Locke was thinking as Ben was killing him) and on the beach with Kate, it was speaking from an Alex POV.

  6. Mimi says:

    Oh yeah. I thought about this too, when you guys were discussing whether Sawyer is loyal to Jin or Kate? Remember he asked Kate about Miles after he heard about the carnage at the temple? Clearly he care’s a lot about all the people from the 1977 days.

    Personally I think he’ll take everybody, if it is up to him, who wants to go and he wont leave without Sun, per his promise to Jin.

  7. greenberry says:

    I like that LOST has never been overly focused on fleeting romances. It is nice when the meaningful ones are empahsized, such as Desmond and Penny, or Jin and Sun, or Rose and Bernard, or even Sayid and Nadia. Truly there are so many other interesting things going on, inter-relational or otherwise, in this show!

    However, am I the ONLY one who thinks that Juliet REALLY wanted Jack and Sawyer REALLY wanted Kate, and that the two of them hooked up merely out of convenience and proximity… not that that was a bad thing. I think they got very attached and even happy, but not deeply in love.

    Jack seems to still be smitten with Kate and there is an undeniable connection between Sawyer and Kate too. Kate seems equally drawn to them both, in mostly unhealthy yet caring ways.

    I don’t care how it all ends up. If Ford is best off having coffee and riding off into the subnset with Juliet, so be it. Jack and Kate seem pretty damn disfunctional. Perhaps she is uncapable of being emotionally healthy (open, honest, communicative) and being with anyone.

    Just my 2 + 2 + 2 cents.

    p.s. I only feel qualified to comment on psychological issues on the show (my university major and huge interest in life). The sci-fi mythology stuff gets my brain wires crossed! But I sure love to read all the (truly intelligent) theories and analyses here.

  8. greenberry says:

    sorry for all the typos!

  9. corivee says:

    Oh, wow. Enchanter in NM is on to something. I love the Aaron is Locke theory. I would put money on it. Explains why the others were after Aaron in season 1.

    All these mysteries and unanswered questions are fun to contemplate but I enjoy the discusssions of the big picture too. What is the purpose and meaning of it all. That’s what keeps me up at night.

  10. Angela says:

    I found this on USWeekly… interesting:

    Exclusive: Lost’s New Character Reveals All
    http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/losts-new-character-reveals-all-2010193

  11. Ben Mc says:

    What is it with everyone “rating” episodes? Kate hating? And complaining about the flash sideways?

    I think LOSTies would have a lot more fun if they could sit back and enjoy each episode for what it is.

    1) Don’t compare each show to other shows. We are VERY aware by now that LOST has building episodes, action episodes, reveal episodes, etc. It’s supposed to just be interesting.

    2) I don’t understand the “Kate hate” fad. She’s just a character on the show. Can’t you just accept that she’s a part of the mess all the others are in too, and she’s one of the pawns? Let it go and enjoy.

    3) The Flash Sideways ARE PART OF THE STORY. You just don’t know YET what part of the story they are moving forward.

    Just like the first season. We didn’t start realizing until 5-7 episodes in that there were going to be cross-overs, or magic numbers, or the hidden links. It ALL came together, and just relax, the Flash Sideways will connect with everything. Stop complaining about them not moving the story forward, they are, you just aren’t in the loop yet.

  12. greenberry says:

    @Ben Mc — I agree!

    Interesting idea about Aaron — it does at least make sense for him to be significant, as he is a Shepherd descendant and a baby of huge interest and now has a ‘crazy’ mother.

  13. Steve from NYC says:

    @Angela – I read that article too and was thinking of mentioning it, but it has some reveals that I thought some people might not want to know about. Nothing as major as say what Man in Black’s name is, but interesting stuff indeed from submarine Tina Fey that spurs more questions from the answers to the questions we had before.

  14. Cian says:

    Real quick, what I was hoping for with a Sawyer-centric episode was a return of Elizabeth Mitchell in the flash sideways. 🙁

  15. Carol from Boston says:

    @Angela I hope that article was wrong as the actress came off as a bit conceited and I didn’t really like the character much.

  16. Carol from Boston says:

    @greenberry – I always thought that too, maybe it started out that way and they developed deep feelings for each other. I think Juliet moved on and didn’t love Jack anymore, but Sawyer still loved Kate.

  17. Drew says:

    You know, some people actually LIKE Kate, and what’s more, some people actually like Sawyer WITH Kate. Maybe it’s because the show didn’t spend much time on the Saywer/Juliet relationship, but I and the group I watch with were never much into them, and it actually made us kind of uncomfortable to see them together. Kate and Sawyer may have known each other for a shorter time, but sometimes a strong connection can be made just that quickly. I’ve always felt Sawyer and Kate made a lot more sense anyway. He’s always loved her.

    I for one am glad to not see mopey Sawyer wandering around New Otherton every week.

  18. As to the ship surviving hitting the statue… do we know that the statue isn’t mostly hollow inside? Was it mostly the wave that toppled it? Let’s just accept that it fell over and leave it at that.

    Now does the toppling of the statue have any special meaning? Is that why Jacob seemed extra angry when Richard showed up… cause his house just fell down? Will Richard leave the island and the show to star in his own series of Highlander films?

    So many questions!!!

    😉

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