Trans 2008-06-01: “There’s No Place Like Home – Parts 2 and 3”

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This episode of “The Transmission” takes a look at “There’s No Place Like Home – Parts 2 and 3,” the season finale for the fourth season of “LOST.” We recap the two-hour episode in eight minutes, then spend some time discussing it in greater detail. Then, we turn it over to You All Everybody, featuring our brilliant listeners and readers. In the Forward Cabin, we discuss what we might do during the long, dark hiatus.

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Segments:

  • 0:00:00 Introduction
  • 0:01:23 “LOST” in 8 Minutes
  • 0:09:29 Discussion
  • 0:47:02 You All Everybody: Feedback
  • 1:15:08 The Forward Cabin: Hiatus Plans
  • 1:20:31 Closing

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15 Responses to “Trans 2008-06-01: “There’s No Place Like Home – Parts 2 and 3””

  1. Andrew says:

    Hey guys, great work as usual!

    Is it just me or did those whispers you played that said “The island needs you. You have to go back before it’s too late” sound a lot like Sawyer?

  2. Nancy says:

    Hello to you both!!

    Last podcast–great job as always. Great season as well.

    Have followed your website since season two when I really got into reading everything online about Lost. I listen only to your podcast (okay Damon & Carlton!) and I’ll miss my sunday mornings with you both. It’s always such a treat to turn on my computer and discover that the podcast is up!! What a crazy fun world that Lost has given us.

    Have a fantastic time in San Diego. (It made me smile when you said that you haven’t gone anywhere in years—kids!!)

  3. Scott M says:

    Hey Jen and Ryan;

    Long-time listener, first-time e-mailer.

    Y’all are my favorite Lost-casters out there–thanks so much for making my Season 4 experience so very amazing!

    So it pains me to have issue a correction, in this my first email to you. And it esp. pains me to do so regarding “shipping”, which is my least favorite aspect of Lost fandom…

    But clearly, there is nothing going on with Juliet toward Daniel–she’s just very happy that (she thinks) she’s getting off the island, and that joy is being transfered to Dan, who (she thinks) is leading the rescue.

    In several shots we’ve seen of her lately (e.g., seeing Frank’s helicopter for the first time), she is smiling broadly–the joy many characters have expressed lately about “getting off this rock” (Sawyer) is a common theme, but Juliet has always seemed the most excited. And for good reason.

    Remember, Juliet is the one person on the beach that has been on the island for several years, not just a few months, and she has wanted to go home to her sister for most of that time now.

    So when Daniel volunteers to take over the Zodiac rescue operations from Sayid, Juliet just wants to innocently thank him for taking on this important role.

    Daniels reaction is to this, of course, does seem a bit odd and embarrassed (even for Dan)–but that’s because he’s not planning on leaving Juliet behind.

    Dan’s going to rescure just as many people as he can, including his “freightey friends” Miles and Charolette, before the island moves. After Juliet’s innocent thanks, Dan knows he’ll be making one, maybe two more trips back to the freighter–but since Juliet has declared that she will be the last person to leave the beach, Dan believes that he has in effect signed her death warrant (or eternal limbo warrant–whatever, it’s not a good warrant 😉

    So, hope this all makes sense of that little, strange interaction between Daniel and Juliet, and thanks again for so many hours of enjoyment you’ve given me this season.

    Scott M from Eugene

  4. Scott M says:

    Hey Jen and Ryan;

    Long-time listener, first-time e-mailer.

    Y’all are my favorite Lost-casters out there–thanks so much for making my Season 4 experience so very amazing!

    So it pains me to have issue a correction, in this my first email to you. And it esp. pains me to do so regarding “shipping”, which is my least favorite aspect of Lost fandom…

    But clearly, there is nothing going on with Juliet toward Daniel–she’s just very happy that (she thinks) she’s getting off the island, and that joy is being transfered to Dan, who (she thinks) is leading the rescue.

    In several shots we’ve seen of Juliet recently (e.g., seeing Frank’s helicopter for the first time), she is smiling broadly at the prospect of getting off the island–the joy many characters have expressed lately about “getting off this rock” (Sawyer) is a common theme, but Juliet has always seemed the most excited. And for good reason.

    Remember, Juliet is the one person on the beach that has been on the island for several years, not just a few months, and she has wanted to go home to her sister for most of that time now.

    So when Daniel volunteers to take over the Zodiac rescue operations from Sayid, Juliet just wants to innocently thank him for taking on this important role.

    Daniels reaction is to this, of course, does seem a bit odd and embarrassed (even for Dan)–but that’s because he’s planning on leaving Juliet behind.

    Dan’s going to rescue just as many people as he can, including his “freightey friends” Miles and Charolette, before the island moves. After Juliet’s innocent thanks, Dan knows he’ll be making one, maybe two more trips back to the freighter–but since Juliet has declared that she will be the last person to leave the beach, Dan believes that he has in effect signed her death warrant (or eternal limbo warrant–whatever, it’s not a good warrant 😉

    So, hope this all makes sense of that little, strange interaction between Daniel and Juliet, and thanks again for so many hours of enjoyment you’ve given me this season.

    Scott M from Eugene

  5. Scott M says:

    Sorry, don’t know how to make corrections, so I just posted the least error-ridden version (ie, the second one)–sm

  6. Kentroversy says:

    Hey Jen and Ryan!

    Great podcast, btw.

    I noticed on the JEREMY BENTHAM Wikipedia page, that he was influenced by JOHN LOCKE, and DAVID HUME — the historical figure that Desmond is named after.

    Anyone know what this MEANS?!

    Warmest Regards,

    Kentroversy
    Buffalo, NY USA

  7. Rich says:

    Love your podcasts! I think Michael and Jin are still alive. I think Ben knew the freighter exploding would not kill those on board which is why he didn’t feel any remorse about killing Keamy.

  8. Nadya says:

    HI Ryan and Jen,

    After listening to your podcast, which is excellent bye the bye, I was a little surprised that you guys also have Desmond on a pedestal. Why is it that everyone feels Desmond was telling the truth to Charlie? If you remember that was the one “flash” we didn’t get to see. He told Charlie he needed to go to the underwater hatch in order for Claire to be saved, and we bought it. Given the situation and location in the island, coming up with a story of Claire in a helicopter, is not that farfetched, especially with his military background.

    I personally think he wasn’t being completely truthful to Charlie and I don’t blame him. He knew Charlie will eventually die, and he wanted to be reunited with Penny. I know we all love Desmond, myself included, but everyone has their moments and his weakness is Penny.

    I hope with all my heart Yin is alive and Daniel picks him up, but I am Michael is a goner.

    Keep up the excellent work, and I look forward to your section in The Jay and Jack Show.

    Regards,

    Nadya
    New Haven, CT

  9. Spalz says:

    I think the island is really a spaceship, that would explain the statue of the 4 toed foot, and why it can time travel. By turning the wheel, Ben was able to somehow jump start the engine to shift the island. Remember the Rembaldi stuff from Alias? Kinda like something like that.

  10. EKI says:

    Hi there, I have recently joined your podcast and I really like how you relate recent events with previous season episodes to come up with theories instead of just saying whatever you may think without taking all the background in account. It is very useful to enjoy the show more in depth than just watching the episodes.

    I am myself working on a theory somewhat related to time travel, but more centered in the time paradox and how it has to be fixed.
    I invite you to come and take a look at it. I would appreciate a comment or two on what do you think of it.

    http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Time_paradox_%28Theory%29

    Thank you.

    EKI

  11. djchau says:

    I don’t know if this was mentioned yet. But at the end of the season finale of season 3, people were wondering how can Walt appear to Locke as a older child. Maybe this is because at the end of this season finale , walt tells Hurley that the only person that visited him was locke and maybe in thier meeting locke tells him everything including what happen at that moment. And Walt using his powers appeared to him from the future to fullfill that event that locke told him when he appeared to locke at the pit.
    I feel bad for what happened to michaels character but I hope introudcing Walt in the finale means we will see him in the next season becuase there is so much left to the mystrey of why he is special.

    Also, if you haven’t seen it yet this past tuesday john stewart of the daily show did a funny segment concerning lost in comparison to the democratic race. It’s a must see if you are a fan of lost.

  12. djchau says:

    Theres been alot of talk about if Jin or Daniel is alive or where they are. One theory I had that I don’t think its been mention but maybe one or both of them got transported like Ben did off the island. In the scene where Charlette finds the polar bear , people think the reason why he was wearing a dharma colar is to prove he came from the island but I think the reason why they showed it was that it was hydra colar which we all know the hydra station is on the small island near the main island. Ben himself said that to move the island is unpredictable and maybe when the island was moved before like people have been suggested that people or animals got transported off the island from different locations like the polar bear. Unless for some reason the polar bear was used to turn the frozen donkey wheel instead of an actual donkey or for some reason the dharma iniative was tired of using bunnies in the orchid and actually stuffed a polar bear in that little vault I think that this is how that polar bear was transported off the island.

    And maybe if this is true we will find out that some people got transported off like Ben off the island. This can also work for people that were on the island like sawyer or juliet. I’m really pushing this theory for Daniel because he has knowledge that if he was off island that Ben and the oceanic six can use him to help find the island.

    Would love your feedback on this.

  13. Carole says:

    I have a comment and a question that I haven’t seen mentioned on any other website or podcast. I actually left the same message for Jay and Jack before I realized that they would not be broadcasting for a while. I wanted to get some feedback before then so I thought I’d mention it here.

    My comment is that I thought the scene where the Six were coming off the plane in Hawaii reminded me so much of the scene in Close Encounters of the Third Kind where the pilots are coming off the spaceship. They too were coming back from an unknown place and hadn’t aged. Probably just a coincidence, but interesting.

    My question for next season is…… Will Locke be able to walk once he is off the island or will he be visiting the Six in a wheelchair. I’d love to know what everyone thinks. Thanks, Ryan and Jen. Carole from Philadelphia.

  14. Kim says:

    Wow, this is the first time I’ve listened to your podcast–great job! Really interesting and brought up some points I haven’t considered (and I spend much time considering a lot!) Your discussion was very well-balanced except for one thing: no mention of Jack and Kate’s relationship. Please don’t have a knee-jerk reaction of abhorrence! I realize many people are sick of the triangle–I think it has become way too soapy, myself. And I don’t think you have to indulge in shipper wars, either. But Jack’s relationship with Kate is just as important as the other relationships on the show, if not more so at times, and to not even mention anything about it is to ignore a part of Lost. My second comment is also controversial. I seem to be of the minority here, although my friends and family tend to agree with me, but I thought the frozen donkey wheel was really stupid! Cool as in-joke; lame as plot device. To me, it almost ruined the episode, and thus I cannot say this was my favorite finale. I like sci-fi, but I think this was too literal and far-fetched, especially given the cool balancing act the show has given us so far between sci-fi, the supernatural and realistic character drama. Anyone else feel the same? Thanks for reading.

  15. John says:

    I just listened to the podcast from the last episode. And, i did not hear much discussion on the wheel. Clearly a control mechanism of some sort. Not sue of the whole alien spaceship thing, but there were definitely runes or hieroglyphics of some sort all over the cave.

    Why was it cold down there too? Why did Ben have to blow it up to get to the tunnel in the back? I can’t imagine Darma would have covered it up like that….

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