Next: “The Candidate” (Episode 6×14)

Intellectually, we knew the stakes were life and death. We knew not all of our cherished survivors would make it to the final act. Yet, knowing is one thing. Seeing and feeling the sudden and tragic loss of beloved characters is another thing entirely. The skeptic in me, the spoiler addict in me, saw it all coming. Yet still, I was devastated. I thought I’d stemmed the flood of tears, until Hurley, Kate, and even Jack broke down on screen. Jen was a wreck, literally speechless, and ended her evening with the final thud. Cling as we might to the flash-sideways as a possible escape hatch to happiness, and as warm and wonderful some of those off-island moments have been, it’s obvious tonight that our hearts were with the characters on the island. The ones we’ve followed for half a decade.

Sun and Jin were reunited only one episode back, and it was a moment that felt incomplete, rushed. We voiced fears that their days were numbered now that their characters’ primary objective had been met. But so soon? So beautifully cruel? I stopped breathing the moment we saw that Sun was trapped. I tried to muster at least an eye roll, but it was too late. I was a goner. Giacchino’s powerful “Life and Death” theme was perfectly cued, a bullet to the heart.

I half expected, hoped, and even rationalized that Jin would indeed leave Sun one last time. After all, don’t all “go on without me!” scenes end that way? And what of Ji-Yeon? But he chose to perish with her, the two of them indeed together forever, entombed in a submarine. The parallels to Charlie’s death were not accidental… and surprisingly powerful.

And Sayid! His heart to heart with Desmond did light a spark of goodness in him, as we’d hoped. But moments after he confirms that he did not kill our damp Scotsman, he makes his final move, his selfless act, giving up his life to a bomb blast so that others may live. He wasn’t, after all, what everyone said he was. Say what you will about how weakly his character had meandered through most of this season, I now can’t help but look back over his first days on the island. An Iraqi, a former member of the Republican Guard, a torturer, a born killer. That this Middle Eastern character dies by self-inflicted bomb in an act of heroism is… eerily poetic.

(Though the much ballyhooed ethnic diversity of “LOST” was certainly thinned tonight.)

And a brief salute to Frank, the hapless pilot, always ready with a one-liner as he was dragged hither and yon. We loved how his eyes twinkled as they returned to the plane, ready for the still seemingly impossible challenge of getting it airborne. Alas, he died but a passenger inside another metal tube. Last words: “Aw hell.”

Deaths aside, the most powerful scene tonight was the showdown between Jack and Sawyer. Jack, realizing that they were exactly where Unlocke wanted them, insists that the bomb won’t kill them unless they do something to allow it to do harm. It directly referenced the amazing scene on the Black Rock earlier this season, when Jack bet his life that the dynamite wouldn’t blow because he lit the fuse. They can’t kill themselves, but they can kill each other… as previous arrivals to the island no doubt did. But Sawyer couldn’t bring himself to trust Jack, especially given what happened the last time he believed Jack’s plan. I could wholly identify with both of them.

Yes, Sawyer pulled the wires, and his action did accelerate and ultimately lead to the C-4 sinking the sub. Why did that happen, when the fuse Jack lit went out? Well, Sawyer did survive the blast. It killed people, including other candidates, but it didn’t kill him.

Meanwhile, an endless debate is born: was Jack right? Had Sawyer not acted, would nothing have happened? It seems a heck of a gamble on Unlocke’s part, putting a timer on a bomb on a submarine (a very direct act), with the expectation that someone would discover it and set it off for him. Just how indirectly do his actions have to be to cause the death of a candidate without breaking the rules?

The one other top-shelf reveal in “The Candidate” seems to be the fact that Unlocke is The Bad Guy. Full stop. No more ambiguous hints and sympathetic overtures. After weeks of being merely menacing and threatening, this week he’s downright merciless, walking right into a hail of bullets and killing without breaking a sweat. And his plan all along was, indeed, to eliminate the candidates. He wanted them all together because they’d be easier to kill together. But he knows some survived, and he’soff to finish what he started.

Does this mean that Unlocke  The Man in Black, the smoke monster, what have you — is actually the embodiment of a great and powerful evil? An evil from which the rest of the world must be protected? It would seem so. And given what Sayid said moments before he died, it sure looks like Jack is Jacob’s successor. He is The Candidate. He sure said that he’s not leaving the island enough times tonight. What else could his calling or purpose be at this point but to continue to confound Unlocke’s attempts to leave?

Desmond, though, remains key to the end game. And that’s something that Widmore seems to have known all along. And it’s Widmore’s role that remains a mystery to me. After all, the C-4 that blew up the submarine came from a booby trap on the plane, one that does seem to have been set by Widmore. If Widmore wanted to destroy the plane, he could’ve done so already. So, couldn’t he have helped Unlocke exterminate the candidates, had they all climbed aboard and turned the key?

Then again, Widmore did try to lock the candidates up in cages, telling them it was for their own good. If it’s as simple as that, though, what is Widmore up to?

As for the flash-sideways, more wonderful moments, to be sure. Just this week, they were greatly overshadowed by the island timeline.

I like that Jack knows himself well enough to see how strange it is that he’s compelled to learn why Locke doesn’t want an operation. Helen asks why it isn’t enough that he saved his life, and Jack says, “Because it’s not.” Seeing the once intimidating Anthony Cooper reduced to an invalid was a surprise. Discovering that it was Locke who caused his father’s paralysis, as well as his own, in a plane crash was cool twist. Locke had his crossover moment, mumbling “push the button” and “I wish you believed me.” And then Jack makes a connection, telling him the same. Their chat in the hospital hallway, when Jack tells Locke to let go even when he can’t let go himself, was great.

What of the music box from Christian? “Catch a Falling Star” has followed Claire around from the beginning. Will Christian be revealed, so very late in the season, as someone else who knew or saw “the truth”?

Two more Tuesday nights. Then, the two and a half hour (yes, they announced the extra 30 minutes tonight) series finale on May 23. There’s not much “LOST” left. I have to say, even if on a purely visceral level, “The Candidate” is the first episode of this last season to feel like I expected this last season to feel like. It shocked me. It angered me. It hurt me. I expect nothing less over the final hours of the best show on TV.

  • Is it shocking to kill off several main characters in one episode? Yes. Is it unexpected? No. And stepping back a bit, I’m glad they hit us late and hard, rather than killing off one character every few episodes. Back in the early seasons, there was a “Survivor” like element as we bet on who would be the next to buy the farm. The deathwatch mindset kind of trivialized things. Sure, more characters will be lost over the next few hours, but in this last act, that comes with the territory.
  • Flash-sideways Jack is increasingly likable. Standing there, looking dashing in his scrubs as Helen thanked him for saving Locke’s life, he seemed almost ready for a guest appearance on “Gray’s Anatomy.”
  • All season long, the writers go out of their way to say, “We don’t know whether Sun or Jin is the candidate.” With both killed off, it looks like we’ll never know.
  • Kate, meanwhile, hears twice that she’s not a candidate and not needed. The more that’s emphasized, the more it feels like she’s being set up to be a spoiler.
  • Neat “mirror moment” with the music box, when we see both Claire and Jack reflected.
  • Sawyer’s nickname for geeky Widmore thug: Dougboy. Jen had been calling him Pugsley.
  • Locations: The hospital and care home were both the Rehab Hospital of the Pacific in Liliha. Bernard’s dental office was Kahala Dental Care in the Kahala Office Tower (adjacent to Kahala Mall).

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454 Responses to Next: “The Candidate” (Episode 6×14)

  1. Carol from Boston says:

    Article on EW.com with comments from Damon, Carlton and Sun and Jin on tonight’s episode and why Sun and Jin had to die.

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/04/lost-producers-actors-candidate/

    Very good reading!

  2. Wow for the first time the negative criticism is getting to me.
    Not normally one to get infuriated over other people’s opinions…
    I guess cause when you’ve lost someone you love seeing an episode like that hurts far more than any plot intricacy or something that confuses you…
    Lost has made its history and name for making people scratching their heads…
    So don’t complain about it now..
    Will it all make sense in the end? Absolutely..
    Will it satisfy everyone, or even the majority? Maybe not likely…
    But in the end, characters, stories, themes, and emotions are all that matter…
    Redemption…manipulation…heartache..
    I love LOST>
    I love this forum.
    But don’t hate…appreciate!

    My heart is sunken along with that sub…

  3. Theresa in D-Town says:

    I’m having trouble believing that Widmore was the one who rigged the C4 on the plane, and if he did, I’m thinking his motives were definitely not as MiB expressed them. Seems like Chuck would know that it would take a lot more than C4 to put even a dent in ol’ Smokey, and his locking up the candidates seemed to be a strategy to separate them from him. So what was the point of rigging a bomb? Maybe just to destroy the plane? But if that was the case, why not just blow it up and be done, why rig the bomb to the electronics? Why risk MiB acquiring a weapon?

  4. Carol from Boston says:

    @Bryan I almost expected a ballerina and thought it was Danielle’s music box. That song was also on the mobile that was in the dharma nursey for AAron and Claire sang it to him, as did Kate.

  5. Carol from Boston says:

    @Knives, I know what you mean, I don’t hate but my heart is broken, thought of you when Sayid died.

  6. Rus from Texas (Lonestare) says:

    The writers already assassinated Jin and Sun’s character many episodes ago, perhaps even back at Season 5. Their death in this episode was just a formality.

    Sayid coming back from Zombie Land made no logical sense, considering the decline we’ve seen since his baptism in the temple. Suddenly, he cares. Maybe some footage was sacrificed for times’ sake.

    Looks like the boulder in the stream is slowly being removed (or sinking), merging or syncing time back where it should have been. As a result, the off-Island Losties will be left with Déjà vu for some time… unless, of course the circle keeps repeating. I think we’ve all exhausted every possible outcome for this show, we are all finally catching up with the writers – maybe even made it to the finish line before they did. Hmmm.

    Beach scene with Hurley, Kate, Jack, and Sawyer was moving. THAT was touching.

    Final scene when Locke says that he needs to finish what he started. I was kinda hoping that he was going to raise his rifle and shoot Coo-Coo Claire point blank. I know, I’m a mean person, but really she is just icky and annoyingly submissive.

    Looks like Locke survived a little time in water. I like how he just deflects bullets. (yawn).

    Off island scenes were great.

    P.S. I don’t think Frank is dead.

  7. lucydog says:

    crazy thought, but now that the sub is gone, the plane is rigged with dynamite, can ANY of the remaining Losties who wish to leave (I guess that would be Sawyer, Kate and Hurley?) actually leave or will they too die on the island now that every mode of transport is gone?

  8. Carol from Boston says:

    @Rus – notice how MIB couldn’t turn into smokey, he had to use a gun to kill. I thought I saw Frank’s body on the ground as Jack was leaving, you can see his white shirt by the door.

    Next week’s episode looks so good!

  9. Steven Hunter says:

    Still digesting this episode. I’m a combination of sad and angered at the deaths of Sun and Jin, considering they only reunited in the last episode — and it was a bit rushed and void of emotion. It was great to see them together tonight, especially Sun returning Jin’s ring while they were in the cage. And for those who say that the alternative timeline softened the blow, it did no such thing for me.

    I don’t give a crap about Frank and never have. It was nice, though, to see Sayid snap out of his “darkness” and perform such a noble deed. It was also great to hear him say, “Its going to be you, Jack.” For a few episodes this season, I actually thought Jacob’s replacement might end up being Hurley — but apparently not.

    I don’t think any of the “children theories” posted tonight are well supported or likely. I’ve heard Matthew Fox say in several interviews that he knows what the final image of the series will be, and I’m guessing its him and Unlocke sitting on the beach — just as we saw MiB and Jacob sitting on the beach at the end of Season 5.

  10. I get it now…
    LockeNess Monster wanted to long con them… well naturally.
    Take em all out, he couldnt do it one by one..
    He had to look like the good guy, he had to portray himself as the victim..
    and it worked…

  11. Armin from Grand Rapids says:

    I still was emotional about this episode even though I knew some of the things that were going to happen like Sayids death and the Sub sinking. Definitely moved by Suns and Jins death. I shed a tear for them.

  12. hammer says:

    @Birger ..you are 100% correct..he couldn’t kill them..rules….he at least tried to get them to kill themselves. By sawyer pulling the wires..that is what blew the bomb…the last line by flocke…”To finish what I started”..hmm..
    but then…he knew the plane was rigged to blowup..he could have had the plane blow up..that would have done it..but maybe not jack..rats…
    nose bleed!! MEDIC..

  13. Carol from Boston says:

    @Knives – EXACTLY!

  14. Welshie Loves LOST says:

    What an episode! Not at all what I expected other than someone major punching their ticket! Not the Kwons! Does anyone else suspect that Charles Widmore and MIB are in leasgue with one another. Something tells my gut that MIB got to Charles as a young man and promised him the island. This would allow the proper allignment of Ben on Jacob’s side and Widmore on MIB’s side.

    I am also slightly hopeful that Jack and Locke’s relationship in the Flash sideways is a mechanism for Locke’s soul to rightfully re-claim his body and boot MIB out in the 2007 time. I would love to see the real Locke back for one last walk on the island, before a better and more deserving death for all that he has sacrificed.

    I cannot believe it is about to end and folks it only ends once!

  15. Jennifer says:

    Maybe the bomb was placed there by Richard, Miles, and Ben? Could they have gotten their hands on C-4 somewhere?

    I also noticed a few people mentioned they were angry at Sawyer. However, I don’t blame him. Why should he just Jack? The last time he trusted Jack, Juliet ended up dead.
    This episode moved so quickly on the island, but I don’t feel like the the LA story advanced at all.

  16. John Fischer says:

    @Steven Hunter – I think you’re right. Had Sawyer just left the bomb tick down it would not have exploded, but Sawyer pulled the wires and he was ultimately responsible for Frank, Sayid, Sun and Jin’s deaths. That’s tragic.

  17. OMFG OMFG ZOMFG!!!!!!

    THE FINALE HAS BEEN EXTENDED AN HALF HOUR!!!!

    THAT MEANS A 2 and a HALF HOUR FINALE…

    EPIC

  18. Matt from Cleveland says:

    Dear Lord! That Episode…

    That’s all I can say!

  19. ScottB in DC says:

    Kate’s name was crossed out in the cave (MIB’s dark cave) but NOT in the lighthouse (Jacob’s light house) – Kate’s name was though was listed as number 51, the only candidate on the list who doesn’t correspond with THE NUMBERS. I always thought MIB crossed out her name, thinking she was dealt with somehow, but that he was wrong. Help anyone?

  20. Ron Kaplan says:

    Now that’s what I’m TALKIN’ about. Lots of action and sad surprises. I was pretty sure that sun and Jin would “go,” but that “Perfect Storm” end was a bit hard to take. Sayid’s death was noble, but where’s the love for Lapidas? Not even a mention? Of course, on a show like “Lost,” can you ever really be sure? Greatly looking forward to seeing how Ben, Richard, and Miles play into the last couple of episodes. The coming attractions looked good, too, but I hope the rivalry between Jacob and MIB doesn’t come down to bad feelings over a backgammon bet.

  21. Bronco says:

    Another great episode! I cracked up laughing when Jack told Locke he was a Candidate early on!
    So much for speculating about the show titles before the show airs ….

    Question: How many 815’s in a hospital does it take before someone catches on and goes Hmmmm?

    I wonder how MIB will try and get the remaining losties to cause the deaths of each other. I think they know his game at this point.

  22. Dave in NY says:

    Lost you made me cry. But did anyone start laughing again at the 30 second bobble head routine Jack did when he started crying? Glad we got the old Sayid back in the end. Sayid can fix anything, but only for thirty seconds, so he had to run.

    Do the last few episodes leave you slightly shaking by the end wondering what happened to the hour?
    The only major crime Lost can do to me at this point is ending without someone acknowledging Frank. RIP Frank?

  23. Bart P. says:

    Loved tonight’s episode. It was sad to see everyone go and I still can’t believe that they did that, but there has to be some consequences to all of this. Not everyone will be able to live on “happily ever after”. I have the feeling we are not done yet losing some of our favorite characters.

    The only thing I wasn’t sure about is Sayid says something right to Jack right before he runs off with the bomb. Does he say, “because it’s going to be you Jack” or something else?

  24. John in Texas says:

    There’s definitely something going on with the quick switches between daylight and night. When it was just when Jack and MIL left to talk at night, and returned in day, we could possibly consider it a lapse. But tonight we had the group start their trek to plane at night, and then next time it showed them it was daylight. They get on the sub in daylight, and get off and it’s night (and during this time we had the timer on the bomb to demonstrate that it was only minutes between getting on and off the sub. Thus it’s clear that Darlton is setting us up for something that’s happening with the island.

  25. Armin from Grand Rapids says:

    I am still rooting for Man in Black muhahaahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!!!

  26. Murad Kheraj says:

    Excellent episode. Tugged at my heart strings. Can’t wait for the Light/Dark reveal next episode. My understanding is that the final episode is on the 23rd (Sunday) and it will be two hours long. Only one regular episode left?

    Losties left:
    – Richard
    – Miles
    – Ben
    – Hurley – C
    – Kate
    – Sawyer – C
    – Jack – C
    – UnLocke/Flocke/MiB
    – Claire
    – Widmore
    – Desmond

    Missing anyone else of importance?

  27. ScottB in DC says:

    @Carol – great catch with the song from the music box – I just rewatched that one, nice to think about

    @Knives and Jeremy – Amazing when MIB finally smiles and says you don’t want to be on that sub, I was screaming I knew it! even though every now and then I was thinking Locke is doing some good things. Unlike when Ben strangled Locke way back when and I was blown away, sure Ben was a good guy.

    @Jesse, Crystal in Raleigh, John Fisher – the flash sideways makes sense in the space time continuum thing, but as a plot device, it reminds me of Pulp Fiction. In real time, John Travolta is shot dead coming out of the bathroom by Bruce Willis, but at the end of the movie, he’s chatting away with Samuel L Jackson, so you leave the theater with a good feeling, even though you’re shocked half way through.

  28. Brendan in WI says:

    Another thing about the theory of the children of the Lostees being the actual candidates: if it were true, why would the names of people without kids be on the list? Reyes, Jarrah & Locke are just a few names of characters without children. And it’s a little late to spring that on us if they do have kids.
    I’m still operating on the assumption that all the candidates were brought to the island, and that all the remaining ones are currently on the island. Plus, these past few episodes are really pushing that Jack may be the actual candidate.

  29. In the wake of my grief of watching last night’s episode, I had to write this. To the writers, the actors, the producers, the crew and anyone else who brought this story to life, I have say THANK YOU.

    I was a little worried that the ending was going to be skewed and disappointing. I regret of having so little faith. The ending doesn’t matter anymore. I have invested so many hours watching this story unfold. I have been rewarded with a story, a tale, a saga that has intrigued me, made me laugh, kept me in suspense and last night brought me to tears. I never thought a TV show would ever accomplish that. I know for a fact that The Lost Production Team will deliver the good.

    They say it’s a blessing to live in interesting times and I consider myself fortunate to catch this show during its first airing. I also want to say thanks to you, Ryan and Jen, for your podcast that brought an enhancement experience of watching my favorite TV show of all time. Your work is and always will be greatly appreciated.

  30. Chris says:

    After all the time they spent apart, we get 5 mins for Jin and Sun together again before they are killed. Guess its time for the writers to start ‘shocking’ us by killing of main characters just for the ‘wow’ value. Lame.

    I mean Jin survives a ship explosion and Sun survives a SECOND plane crash just so they can be together as they drown in a sub. Great writing there guys. And I won’t even go into the whole time travel stuff.

  31. ScottB in DC says:

    MIB wants Desmond dead, so you’re going to need him……It’s going to be you Jack…..so Desmond can withstand EM and that nuetralizes smokey? Makes him incapable of becoming smoke? So Jack can then kill Unlocke like Ben killed Jacob?

    But what then? Jack stays on as Jacob or Richard? Richard is then free of this mortal coil? Who is the counterpart then? Ben? Widmore?

    Or is the island at the bottom of the ocean and that timeline ceases to be. The flash sideways is all there is, sounds like the antithesis to all the warnings of everyone we know ceases to exist, or we all go to hell.

    And how did Sawyer know to get Unlocke wet? Just from the discussions about getting to Hydra island in the boat?

  32. Ron Kaplan says:

    Murad:

    Technically, I don’t know if you can consider Richard, Miles, Ben, Widmore, and Desmond “Losties,” since they weren’t passengers on the original Oceanic flight.

  33. ScottB in DC says:

    It was great to see Sayid come back from zombieland, it was cool seeing the beginning of it when Desmond asked Sayid “what will you tell (Nadia)” and Sayid begins to see how hollow and unreal his future with her would be, compared to his memories of their life together.

    I think the day/night things are just evidence of time passing, like the trip from the cages to the plane is an hour or more? We’re not flashing through time anymore, there’s no headaches or bloody noses, and I think the production values on the show are too great to have that many continuity problems.

    I remember it was dark when Locke and Claire were first talking to Jack, then light when they returned to camp, but couldn’t that just mean they talked for an hour or so?

  34. MHA in NYC says:

    Regarding the quick switches between day and night – and then the light and dark circluar chips that Flocke holds up in the preview for next week . . . didn’t real Locke teach Walt how to play Backgammon (light and dark chips) in one of the first episodes?? I have no idea what this means, but wondering if anyone else finds this interesting because there’s been talk of Walt possibly making an appearance.

  35. Larry Miller says:

    Theory:
    The End = Jack and Locke sitting on the beach and they are watching the plane fly over and it is filled with all of the original passengers of Oceanic 815.

    What we have been watching for 6 years were the possible choices that the passengers and inhabitants could have made. The island was just showing them their potential paths. However, it needed Jack and Locke to make it come to fruition.

    Well… that is my hopeful ending 🙂

  36. ScottB in DC says:

    Who is the boy in the jungle? He had bloody arms and bright blonde hair, then next episode darker hair no bloody arms – evidence that he was aging?

    Richard couldn’t see him, Sawyer and Desmond could – is the difference there because Richard and the boy are both supernatural?

    Where is he now, is this why everyone is talking about a schedule, like they have to finish stuff before he grows up?

  37. Abiron says:

    Sad, painful, but not entirely unexpected…we all knew that MiB had to show his true colors at some point. But the extent of his planning of his long con was something that would make Sawyer proud…if he wasn’t on the receiving end.

    He’s been setting up the Candidates since the first of them joined him outside of the Temple. He knew Sawyer would betray him, so he made sure he had all the chances in the world to do so, and then used Sawyer’s plans to his own advantage. He manipulated events with great skill and guile…so much so that a rewatch is almost certainly required to see the full extent of it.

    A few questions remain:

    – Did MiB expect Sayid to return from the dark side and let Desmond live? (I think not.)
    – How did he know there would be a bomb on the plane? He was obviously expecting it; he grabbed the watch before he found the bomb. I personally think that the bomb was Richard’s, not Widmore’s (probably plenty of Dharma C4 left where Ben can find it)…so perhaps he knew from seeing Richard recant his decision to join Team Locke that he would be hell-bent on preventing his escape, and acted accordingly.
    – How did he *know* that some of the Candidates survived the sub? I can only assume that he would have felt it if they had all died, perhaps by suddenly being able to leave the Island. Or perhaps something more profound would happen if all the Candidates were gone.
    – Which island did Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sawyer crawl up on? The main one, or the Hydra? Seems like it’d be one heck of a swim to reach the main island unless the sub was retracing it’s inbound route (which we saw came pretty close to the beach that our heroes were on).

    Looking very forward to next week’s backstory episode…maybe we’ll finally get the Big Answers.

  38. brermike says:

    Wow, what a powerful episode. Tense action on-island, deep character moments off-island. Classic Lost episode, climaxing in traditional Lost fashion, with an unexpected death toll.

    I experienced 23 different emotions while watching this great episode and can tell we are really building up to the end.

  39. Larry Miller says:

    Anyone notice that during certain scenes and when certain people say certain things there is a tone/music that happens… example… When Jack and Sayid are by the boat and Sayid say welcome to Hydra island the tone/music happens. Also, when Locke mentions that he could kill everyone, the tone/music happen… Any see what the pattern is yet?

  40. Rickey says:

    So, aside from Hugo, was every Lostie of color killed tonight? I guess we know “white” is gonna win after all.

  41. Bryan says:

    I have always had in the back of my mind most of this season that Widmore and MiB may be in league together. It just seemed like they were playing both sides really well that they would be a natural fit. Tonight’s episode gave some clues to that. Locke grabbed the watch before going into the plane. Used the excuse that the plane is still wired to get the group to the submarine, where he could plant the bomb on Jack. I will have to rethink past episodes to put more of this together.

    But another thing comes to mine. Now that the sub is gone, and it appears the Frank is dead… who is going to fly the plane to get MiB off the island? I found it interesting that sideways Locke had a private pilot’s license. Maybe MiB is able to merge into both timelines, or perhaps when sideways Locke has his moment that MiB becomes aware of being able to fly. Something to think about.

  42. Abiron says:

    Only one thing that I really had an issue with, in retrospect…when the Widmore goon with the keys falls dead outside of the cage, he is clearly shown with one arm outstretched in the direction of the cage itself. Rather than grab the arm and pull him closer, Kate just goes for the keys. Seems to me that, given his position, it would have been a simple task to grab his arm and drag the keys closer…but then Jack wouldn’t have been able to make his glorious entrance. Just a nit I’m picking, I know, but it bugged me.

  43. Steven Hunter says:

    I have thought, especially after tonight’s episode, that Unlocke and Widmore could be in it together. But that scenario makes it difficult to understand why Widmore would return Desmond to the island. If Unlocke perceives Desmond as some sort of threat (which is clear, considering he tried to kill him), why would Widmore bring him back? It could still be the case, of course — it is LOST after all. But it would seem strange.

  44. Steven Hunter says:

    I also have to say, though without much in the way of theorizing to back it up, that I have a feeling John Locke isn’t finished on the island. These two story lines are going to merge or come together in some way, and I’m holding out hope that the real John Locke is given a better deal than simply being strangled to death by Ben.

  45. Carol from boston says:

    @rickey read the article I posted. I think it explains everything.

  46. Rickey says:

    And I’m sorry, the second they left Claire AGAIN, I was ready to blow them all up. Actually, knowing the title of the second to last episode, I was expecting everyone to die. I honestly would have liked that better, and it would have been up to the Sideways to save/change everything.
    Still I really enjoyed this episode, it really gave you what you wanted, action movement and SEEING EVERYONE TOGETHER.
    Also this is the first ep in a while where I don’t think a single character acted outside their personality. I mean, I liked Everyone Loves Hugo, but that wasn’t Hurley for most of the episode. And you can say “well, he was changing, taking the leadership position.” But then he just handed it over the very next episode so it was pointless.
    I also enjoyed all the flash Sideway stuff.
    When they first referenced Anthony Cooper as someone Locke was close to, I thought he wasn’t a con-man in this reality.
    Then when Sawyer is still looking for him, it didn’t make sense.
    But now we know that Cooper was probably in the middle of his “long con” when the accident happened, and ties it all nicely together.
    I’d say this was my 3rd or 4th fav of the season.

  47. Mattfromnd says:

    Can we not bring race into this? I doubt the decision to kill off Jin sun and sayid had anything to do with skin color. If it did, I’d quit watching Now.

  48. Rickey says:

    @mattfromnd Ugh. This is why I don’t do message boards or communities, and besides listening to Ryan and Jen for years, I’ve only started posting here in these last few episodes because, well IT’S THE LAST FEW EPISODES.
    But before this spirals into anything else, it was just a joke.
    Sure it was a joke based on the fact that every minority from the original cast was killed (aside from Hugo, but if they didn’t point out his name was Reyes, and cast Cheech Marin as his dad, he could easily be Hugo Richardson).
    I know the decision had nothing to do with their races. And I would have to be a complete idiot to think it was a master plan. But when you have this build up of “black vs. white” and, again, notice that of all the people on submarine the four whitest people survived… how do you NOT make the “white is winning” joke.
    But when you have to explain jokes, I guess they’re not that funny to begin with.
    Enjoy the rest of the series folks! I’ll just have to catch up on your thoughts on the podcast.

  49. JonY says:

    @ Knives – you’re rigth… This totally destroys my “Flocke is the good guy” theory.

    @ lotsa folks – I think the day/night shifts are a nod to how long it takes to traverse the island…

    I’m not surprised Jin didn’t think of his daughter becoming an orphan. That’s a mom thought, not so much a dad thought – and he hasn’t been around the daughter to build up that instinct.

    My wife cried here eyes out. I’m mad – but not in an angry at the show way, more of a “man this sucks” way.

  50. Mattfromnd says:

    @Rickey.
    It’s difficult to convey a certain tone in this type of setting. There’s no way of knowing if your comment is a joke or not. I wasn’t trying to start an argument.

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