Thanks for the link. My only concern with those is that if the 2008 Comic-con video is non-canon what about everything else not in the show …. the ARGs, the previous Comic-con videos, the missing pieces etc and so on.

My bet is everyone gets back together in 2007. Either by FDW or perhaps by some method involving the Incident which must involve the Swans special EM properties and Jughead in some combination.

Btw, if people have not seen this and want a fresh hit of Lost material, it’s worth looking at: It’s on the ABC Web site and is called “Missing Pieces: http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/missingpieces/index?pn=index.
It is 13 very short segments that essentially add new material and clues to scenes that have already been aired. It’s a bit old now, but definitely worth seeing if you haven’t. You may see Vincent in a whole new light! Let me know if anyone checks it out!

Does a bomb blowing up help Kate? Nope. Therefore, time to abandon Jack! Next step… is a bomb gonna blow up on the island? Maybe! So time to put major space between Kate and the Island in the space of a few hours. How to do that? Hitch a ride on the sub!

To me, the writers are in a corner with Kate; its impossible to make a character like her audience friendly if you are going to remain consistant to her motiviations, which seem to have not changed throughout the series – even Aaron times have been exposed by Cassidy as being Kate-centric.

Just want to say I love your podcast.
Great episode this week – cant wait for the final one.

Ive just watched the comic con video to see what everyones talking about – I think it sounds more like Miles’ voice behind the camera.

I think that when they heard all the voices around Jacobs hut that time it could be Locke, Ben, Richard & the others & the voices are filtering through the different times – Hope that makes sense!

Looking forward to hearing your next podcast

Vanessa

That’s pure gold! ^_^

What could he possibly have in there that is so important?

How long do you think that the Oceanic 6 have back on the island? Is there any chance we’ll see Desmond out of the hospital and part of the plotline?

Rich in Cleveland – I think you are exactly right about Locke and Mikhael, I forgot that he knew everything about all the losties. Great observation.

I am looking forward to Wednesday. I just wish my husband was a fan, I have already told him he has to let me just have the family room to myself, I need quiet. Usually I have to listen to him typing on the computer, having loud snacks like chips, nothing too loud but somehow when I am trying to watch Lost all these sounds seem really loud.

xxxwest sayidxxx

a. they all appear to die (just like Alpert said)
b. they land in LA fine in 2004 (oh please no)
c. they are thrown into the future (beyond 2009)
d. they are thrown into the distant past (Black Rock or Four Toe time)
e. something else

I hope so too, but i just think yet again, Kate’s way of trying to go about
handling something was weak.
i also think that Jack already knows all the reasons, but he is just too stubborn, it wouldnt really matter to him anyhow.

When Ethan shot Locke – that had to be before Ethan’s death in about 2004, did Locke flash into the future, when they found him at the beechcraft?

THanks in advance.

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The H-bomb won’t go off. Not sure what will happen to stop it. Perhaps the bomb is too old and is unable to go off. I don’t know how H-bombs work but maybe all the hydrogen has leaked out so there is nothing left for the fusion reaction.

Just a quick thought leading on from the tunnels in “Follow my leader” that can only be accessed by swimming underwater: was Richard Alpert wet through when he entered the Dharma camp in the episode “LaFleur”?

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*Jacob is linked to the incident. The juxtaposition between what is being told in the present and in the 70′s, would imply they are (dramatically) linked (similar to other reveals between past-present that we have had before)

*Jacob is someone we know from 77. Possibly Jack (though there has been chatter that its Jacks Grandfather cos of the biblical connotations of Jacob and Aaron… shrugs)

*Locke is wanting to release Jacob. Jacob is trapped in the cabin we presume.

*Juliet will die, got no particular reason, just sense it.

*We will discover the reason Miles can sense the history of dead people. Perhaps its caused by him touching his child-self, who knows.

*Whatever happened, happened. FULL STOP. nothing will be changed. We’re being re-led down the path of possibility, and the finale will zing us with the ultimate realization that everything WILL always be the same.

AND MY FAR-FETCHED THEORIES
*The incident transports the ’77 losties into 93. I sense the purge is the ultimate end of the series, and will require the current 77 losties to resolve the paradox of their existence, by destroying there current selves.

*Awesome time-loop possibilities ( I really wanna know how likely you think these are… ignoring anything revealed by the preview for the finale)

-Sawyer IS Sawyer (aka his father). Once leaving the island, he becomes a drunkard, and inadvertently becomes the man he despised, moreso than ever (did adult conman sawyer ever touch younger sawyer?)

-Desmonds baby Charlie is Drug-Addict Charlie. This would require baby charlie being taken away from present-day desmond, and placed into the family we know druggie charlie to have lived with. Perhaps he was adopted.

Thoughts?

At this point it seems like Locke knows way more about the island than anyone else… The island told Locke where the smoke monster originates, but it didn’t even seem to tell Richard about this whole time traveling phenomenon or Locke dying and being brought back to life. He seemed genuinely surprised when he heard about all this.

@ Carol
I believe the faux hesitation you picked up on from Mikhail was when he questioned the identity of Locke because “The John Locke I know was p……(aralyzed).” We hadn’t seen A. Cooper toss him from the window at that point. Mikhail was subtly trying to verify the miracle that instantly qualified Locke to be leader of the others.

I have to throw in a comment about the boar/pig Locke brought with him to camp. There have been a number of pig references that to me represent some kind of dehumanization taking place, much like another island adventure when the perpetually lost Odysseus and his men meet up with Circe the witch and she converts them by their weakness into animals, most notably swine. The scene in “Follow the Leader” was a direct comment on the scene in which Locke bore his dead father on his back to the others camp. It perhaps suggests that pre-island selves or mere non-other mortals who haven’t been reborn in the Temple are only beasts to a superior, but drained-of-innocence type of being. Juliet in particular has always troubled me. She went from this meek and mousey doormat to a ninja warrior, model of calm, spending every waking moment with the others devoted to science, language, literature, etc. She never quite got that cooking thing down though until recently though.

@ Evan
There are probably more good personal arguments in favor of not undoing the experiences and growth of the survivors of 815. But what if this chain of events was “never supposed to happen” and had catastrophic consequences for the world at large? Those are the kind of stakes I’m hoping to see.

Regarding Jack=Jacob, although that seems the most plausible, it would be in true Lost fashion if Jacob is something completely unexpected, even different than not existing.

It seemed to me that Richard and Ben displayed a disturbing familiarity with each other that hinted at a deeper hidden agenda on the march to see Jacob. When Locke delcared to Ben that he was going to kill Jacob, my initial interpretation of Ben’s reaction was as if Ben was reacting to his own death. I’m not suggesting that Jacob is Ben, that is simply preposterous, but rather that Jacob is a real entity and that if he can die, then the end result is probably worse than that of any Others/DI war or Jughead detonation or Incident. Although the man behind the curtain is a popular and plausible conjecture of Jacob, I don’t think the story line has shed any light on that possibility yet.

Regarding Rose and Bernard, what if the reason we don’t see them is that their time snap puts them back on course in the correct present/future and they are not time traveling because the Universe has corrected their course. In a previous post several episodes back, I suggested that maybe they were the Adam and Eve from when the Losties went to the caves in season 1. Although I still like that idea, I’m not so sure now with all that has happened this season.

Regarding Sawyer leaving the island, I don’t think he reverted back to his old selfish ways. Although he was glad to be getting away from the Island for good, he was afterall in handcuffs and forced onto the submarine.

Its true that everyone would be alive, but everyone would still be the exact same way as when the left Sydney. Those who died on the island died as a testomony to their redemptions, and those still alive have changed for the better.

Also, i think that Jack, Kate and the other losties “deaths” (or so recalled by Richard) is due to the fact that, like Locke, they need to die and be resuected to be brought back to their own time.

thanks guys.

I will try to remember that Ben showed Sawyer that the Others were good con-men…but what I am getting at is that I am sort of let-down that Ben, Richard, and the Others / Hostiles don’t seem to have a clue as to what is going on. That’s at least how it is being played. Is it just me, or did this make Richard and Ben seem very weak? I mean, if they don’t know what the heck is going on then who does?

I had pictured them more ‘in the know’ than they are portraying. My guess is that they are conning Locke. Locke has always been succeptable to a con. Any con. It doesn’t even have to be a half-decent con. My little list of John Locke cons ( feel free to add more )

The kidney
The Hippie Commune / Cop,
The button??
The “Stand there next to the window as I prove to you I broke up with that woooooooomaaaaaannn”
The Walkabout?
The “Don’t hang yourself till I get some information from you first”
And my favorite of all time and perhaps the least well-known: The “I’m just a phone sex operator, not your girlfriend” con.

I’m not here to make any enimies, and I surely would love to join the finale party if that were to happen, but I have never had the affinity that some people do for John Locke. He’s not my idea of a hero. He has stabbed people ( Naomi ) in the back. It was pointed out arleady that he set up A. Cooper. He has been more selfish than any character in the fact that no matter what he did what he thought was best for himself and the island. He has stopped every attempt for people to get off the island. Radio signals, submarines, etc. If you ask me, he is the most anti-free-will person I have seen on the island, and yet people love him. Locke has faith, but blind faith if you ask me. Blind faith can lead to trouble. Look what Jack is about to get into. I think now that Jack and John have needed each other to ‘balance out’ their views.

Aside from that: It’s amazing to me that a few years ago we marveled and disucssed and debated endlessly at how a cripple man could walk, and now we barely flinch or question the fact that a dead man walks and talks. The island has changed us all a little I suppose. That’s why we love it so much.

Here’s to the hope that R.A. and Ben are not quite as clueless as they are acting. I don’t think we’ve ever had a scene where R.A. is present when “Smokey” is around. Perhaps R.A. is the ‘advisor’ of sorts to Smokey because in fact he IS smokey in it’s chosen human form. Thus he never ages. Maybe there are more than 1 Smoke Monster. One Dark, One Light. Perhaps each can form into people who are dead, thus a specific count and proper handling of the bodies. Perhaps John, Christian, and some others are manifestations of this other creature and now the two are about to clash. A war between Gods. Or some sort of game….Hmmmm…..

Some of this here seems to be what Christy in Tx was saying around 10:01AM…good thoughts Christy…of course that’s coming from a guy who’s NuckinFuts.

There have also been several references to Jack’s watch (which was his grandfathers) and when he landed in 1977 the watch stopped working. Any Chance his grandfather could be Hanso? We don’t see him well in the Swan Video.

Also they can’t kill off Hurley, no way! I think that is the one character that people would really flip over if he died. Who knows he could be the last one standing.

I know Darlton said they won’t revisit the Dave character, but I always wondered if he was Libby’s husband, she said his name was David when she gave Desmond his boat.

Yes ma’am. Entire series. I’m allready on Season 4, and I still have 5 days or so left. I’ll take my time with that. lol, oh man.

I really need to go outside.

I hope i’m wrong. I love Hurley.

@Christy
I totally agree that Locke’s mention of Christian was the turning point for Jack and probably one of the most pivotal points of the entire season. That’s the moment that sets everything in motion for the return to the island. But after he arrives, Jack seems to adopt a very passive approach until something very recently wakes him up and spurs him to take action. We don’t really get to see what changed his mind and I’m just trying to explain it. I went with avoiding the broken heart/destructive despair route based on his conversation with Kate (over the altruistic “save them all” explanation.) To sum up, when he returned to the island, Jack felt a renewed sense of purpose. What convinced him exactly that detonating Jughead would be the fulfillment of that purpose?

Change is possible.

I think they built the swan station with the bomb as the fail-safe. My guess is they blow up the bomb a lot and every time it changes history.

I’m on the fence between whether I’m hopeful things can change or not. I keep looking for signs of change, too.

So someone did manage to change the past. Or someone will manage to change the past.. or something.

I loved the Hurley and the Presidents scene. Me and history don’t mix, so if I was being questioned by Dr. Chang or sent on the Submarine with Sawyer, I’d be screwed just because I don’t have a particular interest in history. Sure I’ll know who wins the new elections, I just wouldn’t know what to put my money down on gaming events. The only advantage I’d get is getting rich off of making movie scripts (ala Hurley) and investing on some technology deals (DVDs as Miles put it).

-M

Where the heck are Rose and Bernard?

Bottom line is, when I saw this, I couldn’t help but think that it was significant. We see his face (this onminous man) but it was kind of blurry, and hard to make out. I think this could be Jacob. What if Jacob was responsible for not only Jacks life, but Christians, and all of our other Losties’ fate? What if Jacob…really is a person. A person that isn’t Jack, or Locke, or Richard, or the smoke monster, or somebody we already know. Or even Vincent. What if it’s a person whom we’ve potentially seen behind the curtain without realizing it? What if he’s this force that is responsible for our Losties destiny? What if he has been behind the picture?

Damn, I love lost, I’m gonna re watch every episode before the Season 5 Finale, The Incident.

God speed.

One flaw of the episode that didn’t fully occur to me until I read Ryan’s comments was the doubt expressed about Hawking’s motives for the use of Jughead. An H-bomb would entirely obliterate everything or would work its crazy negation magic on the exotic matter. There can be no thought of using it as a limited weapon against the DI because its destructive power makes this idea preposterous. You would blow up the island you’ve been commanded to defend and yourselves as well as any perceived enemy.

Where was Jack’s epiphany? I’ve been so thankful he finally woke up from his fatalistic lethargy that I didn’t stop to consider if his motives made sense. In a 24 episode season, we could have gone back to flashes of the pain over Sarah and Jack about to jump from the bridge, but maybe these have to remain implied to squeeze everything in. Just judging from the scene with Kate, I’m assuming that erasing the timeline is more of a selfish way to avoid suffering and that saving anyone who has been lost along the way is more of an afterthought.

I really wasn’t impressed with the last episode that centered around Ben and John. I liked it but it wasn’t a favorite. Everything that we got from this episode with Ben, John and Richard, though, was wonderful. More than other characters, I keep wanting to label John and Richard in particular as either “good” or “bad.” Like all the characters, I know it is likely they aren’t complete good or completely bad/evil but it is looking like John Locke is at once using Richard to point himself in the right direction in his timeline-past as well as to get to Jacob while at the same time Locke is perhaps about to destroy Richard’s life as he knows it by killing Jacob. I’m still on the fence as to whether I believe he wants to literally or metaphorically kill Jacob but either way, I’d be pretty surprised if Richard likes the idea of John killing Jacob. So, similar to wondering if Jack or Kate is the right one about the hydrogen bomb, I have to wonder if John is right to want to destroy Richard’s life by killing Jacob, thus meaning that Richard’s relationship with Jacob is harmful to the Island or our Losties or the greater good or whatever … thus making John good and Richard bad? Or is Richard, along with Jacob, doing what is necessary for the Island, the Losties, the greater good, whatever … thus making Richard good and John bad? There were times in this show when I felt that John had turned pretty dark but also times when I thought we might be seeing more of a hint that Richard may not be working for the best interests of his people and the Island like I’ve always thought. I mean, we’ve known all along that the DI views him and his people as Hostiles, which doesn’t necessarily condemn them in my eyes but you have to wonder where Dharma came up with the term? And we also know that Richard took part in exterminating Dharma so there’s a dark side there too, as well as him giving Locke the information necessary to get Sawyer to kill Anthony Cooper. So even though I’ve always had some evidence that Richard may not be a beneficent adviser, I still have always viewed him that way and would still be surprised and maybe even disappointed if it turns out that he’s not “one of the good guys.” … Or it could be none of the above, which is very possible, especially if John is now finally able to help Jacob, as he asked in their first “meeting.” If that is the case, it’s possible that Richard has been doing everything he can for the greater good by following Jacob’s orders (assuming Jacob is good) but it has to be Locke to actually help him, making both Richard and Locke good. Man, I love Lost.

DaveWR, I do agree that this episode put Richard Alpert’s goodness into question but I disagree that Sawyer left the island, knowing that he was leaving his friends behind to get blown up. When Chang came in to talk about an evacuation, Sawyer had no idea about Jack’s plans to detonate the bomb, nor did Chang, nor did Miles, Hurley, Jin, or anyone other than those with Jack and the Others. You could argue that he should know there’s a chance that Hurley, Jin and Miles might be in trouble but he didn’t know they might be in mortal danger.

I also fail to see how Kate’s decision to go back to Dharmaville is somehow evidence that she’s the one dragging out these love connections we have going on. I think her reasoning was pretty sound when she said “since when is killing kids and blowing up hydrogen bombs ok?” Not only does she not want to be a part of what she views to be wrong, she’s hoping that others will help her stop Jack from following through with his plan. The writers are dragging this romantic mess out but it’s not like Kate as a character is thinking to herself, “well, now I need to leave Jack again so I can go ruin Sawyer and Juliet’s happy-ending.” I know she’s gone back and forth between them before because she’s confused about how she feels about them and that is very annoying … but I don’t think that’s what she is doing now.

Sorry, that much was longer than I intended.

John from NC, i’m with you with the” Holy Freaking Crap” lol

“I WATCHED THEM ALL DIE”. That line just made me scream and it’s driving me crazy. They are all going to die so that the masterplan is done isn’t it? It would be crapy but i think its true. Hope i’m wrong though.

An interesting thing I noticed is that John says to Ben when they are waiting for R.A in the jungle: “THE ISLAND TELLS ME THINGS”. I believe now that JACOB IS BAD, and the Island Spirit (smokey maybe?) is actually good. I don’t know i may have a permanent nosebleed from this episodee

Locke saw himself for a breif second when he looked into Jacob’s cabin a few seasons ago.

In front of our eyes, Locke is becoming Jacob

Plus, for all we know, that bomb is in the case.

i hope juliet doesn’t die. she and desmond are my favorite characters, even though i’m not sure she can be trusted. i was so disappointed that she went with sawyer. of course, what were her other choices – phil or radzinsky? also, i think that eloise divorces (or whatever) charles widmore b/c he has a child with someone else – hello, penny! i’m so ready to have some answers. where is claire? what is in hurley’s case? what is in ilana’s case – and why?

also, i think jack blowing up the bomb is “the incident”. i mean, if whatever happened, happened – then he blew up the bomb already. i would think it would create quite an incident. but, i’ve decided that i’m not really smart enough/deep enough to watch this show.

We got to see:
1. Lost at its best; The right mix of answers, character development and enough WTH?! moments to keep me interested and excited to see what comes next. Ben totally shell-shocked, Richard re-siding with Ben in fear of John and the “Is Richard actually an evil force and the island wants him gone” vibe.

2. Sawyer was right that a ‘Tiger don’t change it’s stripes” and he quickly reverted into old Sawyer leaving everyone else behind to get blown up to save himself. =)

3. The best and most interesting version of John Locke since Season 1 when we all cared about “what is up with this guy?!”. I love how the show is forcing me into going back and forth between “Is this bad John? Bizzaro world John? Is it even really John?” Either way I love the ‘aint takin’ no guff’ Locke for better or worse.

But I have to agree with Ryan and Jenn… enough with Kate seriously. I have no qualms with Evie as an actress but her character has been the unwilling target of every stupid decision/moment that wasn’t taken up by Locke! Please stop with love-octagons no one cares anymore and we are just fine with Sawyer and Juliet together and Jack and Kate the divorced lovers.

Been looking for a reason to return to HI and I’m coming from NY. We are sooo there!!!! =)

NOT FAIR!

Didn’t we all get a suspicious (is he good, is he bad) feeling of Locke when he was in season 1?

I feel that it isnt him acting foul or malicious, but more of assertive, concentrated, and focused regarding his current motive.

Nevertheless I recognize that ‘killing’ Jacob sounds pretty sour, or so we’re lead to believe. Who knows maybe the ‘help me’ was on the same tone of euthanasia…

Building a model-ship-in-a-bottle on a beach Really
Like if RA was in his office. Maybe he was…
Then why would the Others move from the DI baraks where they have lived for a dozen years to go into a tent camp on a beach ?
We see Ben alone on the beach, when he probably knows each Other personnally. Why not get reacquainted?

Seems that resurected Locke has found some insight rom the Island
Could he be Jacob himself?
Still Jacob exists in 1954 and the cabin is built in the 70′s by Horace
Why not simply burn it? That would make a nice bush fire for the «Moses» followers

Now how the hell was this sealed leeking H-bomb moved into this Egyptian cave ?
Dan did say bury it not get it underground in some cave
We now know that this «massive pocket of energy» is not the H-Bomb. Because where the bomb is the DI is not drilling Is it just an EM source ?
I cannot believe that an active H-Bomb coud lay next to this energy for 23 years without problem

Where was Sayid all this time? (since shooting Ben)

What made Chang change his mind ?

Why wont Sawyier tell the real story to the DI folx?
Is the DI out of thruth serum ?
I guess they didnt find time to slap question Kate…

I really liked the idea of investing in MS …

This was a wonderful episode of Lost. In the last half of this season, I’ve found the story amazing but also a bit disjointed and structurely unsound. I think the creators knew where characters had to be for the season finale so they would get them there (e.g. Jack and Kate at the DI) but then have nothing for them to do until we got near the end. So, a bit like a stop start game of chess, each episode would see some characters move forward in story, some not move and some not seen at all (e.g. Locke was missing for a few eps and Desmond has been missing most of the season). I can’t really call it a criticism though. I think the creators have made a story that’s now too big for this episodic format. I think if they set out to make a twelve-hour movie of Season 5, rather than episodes, you would probably put the story together differently and it wouldn’t feel so disjointed. Maybe this is the season more than any other where it is best watched in one sitting on DVD.

Regardless, this episode I think was so strong because all that disjointed manoeuvring is finally paying off. We had three fast paced, interesting and coherent storylines that built to a wonderful conclusion. Classic Lost. The last few episodes have brought the character horses to their story stalls, as it were (using a horse racing metaphor here), and this episode opened the gates and they started to run. Okay, may have pushed the metaphor too far but you get the idea. The story couldn’t run to the Incident until the characters were in place.

Here’s my theory on Jacob. Jacob is God-like, which might make him a God, of God or simply have God-like powers. I’m reluctant to use the word God because it has religous connotations so some people might think I mean the Christian God. I don’t. Think of it more like the concept in material form, a supernatural being with power over life and death (which, for example, is interpreted and named as God by many religions). One of his powers then is death. It is Jacob, like God I suppose, that makes us die; that ensures that we do not live forever. The island is Jacob’s tool in wielding this power (remember, this place is death), and the dead, of course, resent Jacob for doing this to them and they are beginning to resist. Firstly Christian (dead of course) imprisons Jacob in his cabin and begins to take over. Then he orchestrates Locke to turn the wheel, die off island and return dead. The returning Locke can thus kill Jacob and the dead can then live again. Yes, this may make Lost a show about zombies in season 6 (which many people have been dreading) but it would set the scene for any upcoming war between the living and the dead. So who’s good and bad in this scenario? I can’t say. Perhaps humans need not die at all and Jacob is the evil monster who makes our lives painfully short. Or perhaps Locke is the unnatural evil being and Jacob is the force of good. Maybe it’s a matter of interpretation.

In an episode with many fine scenes (Hurley and Chang was outstanding), I loved the moment when Richard had no idea what happened to Locke after he disappeared. And Locke in response is smug omniscience. In that moment I sensed an expanding of our timescale in regards to the island. Eloise and Richard might have had foreknowledge of many of the events we’ve seen over 30 years during season 5 but that’s all they know and, in terms of island history, it’s a fleeting moment. To me it felt like a neat indication (along with Eloise’s comment last week about not knowing what will happen next) that we’re about to open up our island history in the next season, which seems like a necessary step considering that we’ve got a 19th Century pirate ship and an ancient statue to explain.

I’m very much in the ‘whatever happened, happened’ camp so I don’t spend any time thinking about alternate futures nor do I think that somehow the show will end up negating the original 815 crash. And although I think I’ve got my head around pretty much all this time travel stuff, I just can’t explain the compass. It’s on a perpetual loop so exactly how old is the compass? Infinite? How can anything be infinitely old? If ‘whatever happened, happened’, then the first time the compass stays in Richard’s possession between 1954 and 2007 is the only time it stayed in its possession. It doesn’t happen more than once. Yet if you calculate it’s age, it is infinitely old. Richard, for example, says that the compass is rusted now, presumably after having it for 50 years. But he gives that rusted compass to Locke to give to himself, which means it was rusted when Richard got it in 1954. Does it then get rustier? How could that be?Does the island somehow make the compass new again when Locke travels back to 1954. See, my head is starting to hurt.

Finally, I agree that Richard only thinks the Losties will die because whatever happens with the Incident makes them disappear, which looks like they died. No doubt most if not all of them will end up back in 2007 (except maybe Juliet, who I think will die because it will make good drama) but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them end up further in the past, possibly around Black Rock or the statue period. I think this will happen because if we are to learn about those periods in time and there are to be flashbacks about them, then it makes sense to have characters we know there rather than having to introduce a whole lot of new characters in the show’s final season. If this is the case, then perhaps Jack does go back and become Jacob. Jack is crucial to this show and I think ultimately the show will end up centring around him. Whatever leadership role Locke has now is only temporary until the true leader Jack emerges.

Sorry, I know this was long but if I’m going to write something, I may as well get it all out.

@Katie
My brain’s braided like a twizzler!! They should give that line to Hurley someday.

@Kaysea & CuedblU
Has Sawyer changed? Did he just revert to survival first mode and seemingly abandon his friends? Hurley’s faith in him at that moment was particularly ironic. When Sawyer said “good riddance,” you could read the insincerity in his eyes. He put a brave face over the old vulnerability about being banished from this place that allowed to overcome his demons and perhaps make himself into the person he always wanted to be.

@ Bertran
Oops. Would it make sense if I’d said the statue-worshippers? Twizzlered.

@ cat
Great episode, but not better than “Greatest Hits,” the emotional farewell to Charlie Pace.

@Christy in TX
Love the idea of taking over the Oahu dive.

@Knives
Please do find out about the compass. I don’t have the full history straight in my head.

Hrm. Im gonna do my homework with that. Pretty mind puzzling!

I really feel like when Daniel said “fill the crack in this bomb, encase it in concrete and bury it underground” he did NOT mean, “fill the crack and build a temple around it.”

As to Jack being Jacob, due to casting information that might be a rumor (but has reportedly been confirmed by several sources) convinces me otherwise. I personally feel like this ‘Kill Jacob’ plan is the worst idea ever and Locke is practically a cult leader, but that’s just me. Perhaps by ‘help me’ he did mean ‘kill me’. One idea I’ve had is that perhaps killing Jacob will ‘free’ Claire from his control, and cause Christian to stop appearing.

Radzinsky is on a serious power trip. Personally I hope Whatever Happened, Happened so he definitely ends up as the brain stain in the Swan! No one beats Dawyer toa pulp and gets away with it! Well, except for Sayid, Jack, Pickett… everyone…

The sub moment was priceless. It’s so cute with Sawyer and Juliet together and finally escaping that island, and then Kate. Ruins. Everything. She just climbs in and everything is awkward and ruined. I really was kind of shocked when it seemed like she was shot (in the same style shot as Daniel) but I thought that was a great fake-out by the writers.

Sayid to the rescue! I thought the man he shot was going to be important- maybe someone we knew (maybe Tom) but I guess he was just there to die.

They had better not blow up that bomb. Everyone would die, and I feel like killing everyone is not an acceptable solution to their problems. Would out ’70s Losties die right there, as it’s their present? Or would their minds be transported back to the plane? And still, most of the people on that plane had serious issues.

Richard is not as all-knowing as we thought… But still incredibly attractive and old. I agree that the ship in a bottle is either a reference to the Black Rock or the ‘snowglobe.’

I thought this was an excellent episode jam-packed with setup and reveals! I was surprised there were no flashbacks of any kind, and I’m really anticipating next week. I have loads more thoughts, but I think this post is long enough already!