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But man, I hate these scene of violence!!! How can anyone do not complain about this hate that perspire from the ohters! It has nothing to do with the spirit of the show. I’m disgusted by the hate, the violence,the hypocrisie of the caractere.This is not our show.

I’m disgusted and about to drop this show that does not go to the direction i liked in the show. Of course the story is complicated, but keep your gun down, put your hate away, take the violence out. Their are nice way to make a show clever. the choose now is simply dumb, stupid, makes me puke of hate.

When Locke said “Don’t I feel stupid” to Nikki discovering the monitors could view other stations, it was because last year, in that rage he was in after viewing the Pearl Orientation film, he thought the Pearl was just watching the Swan, and he was devestated to think his “mission” of pushing the button was just some sort of pschological game. The “stupid” comment I took to mean was, even he hadn’t gotten so pissed off, he might ave realized that maybe it wasn’t necessarily the Swan the film was talking about, and he might have kept pressing the button, as opposed to what happend in the season 2 finale.

I don’t hate the two new characters yet. Im willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now. Remember, the Lost creators don’t introduce anything new without a plan, and I’m sure their flashbacks will makeus understand/like them. We shouldn’t hate them just because their introduction was slightly clumsy.

Of course we don’t know if Locke’s paralysis was a spinal thing though. Just a thought.

Also, there’s a scene being shot right now (11/6/06 at 1 p.m.) inside a store on the south side of King street, just a little west of Nuuanu (looks like an antique store). Didn’t see any actors as I walked by, though.

If you’re in Honolulu, you should check out Fort Street Mall in front of Pioneer Plaza (downtown). The “Lost” crew is turning the underground entry to the Satellite City Hall into a London subway entry (as of 11/6/06 at 11 a.m.). It’s looking really cool. Maybe we haven’t seen the last of Mr. Echo yet (think they’ll try to explain more of his experience in London?).

I work downtown and we got notice that that Fort Street Mall will be closed to pedestrian traffic tomorrow for shooting. Also, last Thursday, they were filming on Nuuanu. They had some old 1940’s looking taxi cabs and an old red phone booth set up. Looked like they were filming more London scenes. There appeared to be some filiming going on in O’Toole’s as well (blacked out all the windows). I heard from a co-worker that they’re still doing some filming on Nuuanu today as well.

Back to what I was saying . . . …. ……………………..
I do not want to bore any one but look at the show in the long run with that everything happened for a reason and maybe something will come off of Mr Ekos death. Yeah the episode was lacking at times but I feel that they did not pull off Mr Eko death so quiskly. Maybe the island/smoke monster killed him for his feelings and for failing to push the button. Back to talking about the pilot maybe he was killed because the island did not like the fact that the pilot crashed the plane killing the people. As for Eko maybe the smoke monster gave him a second chance during the first meeting. Maybe Mr Eko’s purpose was to uncover the Pearl and help a few of the Losties along the way.
Other people have already said what I wanted to say so it will be stupid to repeat it. Guys looked at the show as a whole and think what if things happened differently how would of things have turned out.

With that in mind I say bye and will be commenting after the show.

P.S. Sorry for any mistakes.

It’s partially the fault of “LOST” that sets the bar so high, in a way. I can love the show, name some episodes as the best hour of television ever, but still honestly say that “The Cost of Living” or “Fire + Water” were total letdowns.

Just because I’m a big fan of a band doesn’t mean I’m going to adore every album or song they put out.

I have high hopes for the show, and haven’t given up on it (though some friends have). One weak episode does not a shark jumping make. But I hope other fans can allow each other the luxury of being disappointed once in a while. We’re watching a TV show, not holding together a secret cult!

I don’t like the new characters of Niki & Paulo either. It’s not that they were given pointless dribble for dialogue - but the point I think most people are making is that the majority does not want any new characters introduced. We already have the new “Others” characters - Ben, Juliet, Tom and their whole camp. I love that Lost is a show with many characters - but enough is enough already! They don’t need to bring in new people because they’ve killed off others. How about developing the characters we already know and love? Or can’t the writers be creative enough to come up with more backstory for them? We know little about Claire or Desmond, and I would like to see Rose and Bernard again as well. We’ve also hardly seen Hurley this season. It doesn’t seem like a lot of the flashbacks are adding as much to the story as they used to, so maybe the writers think they need new characters - I don’t know, but I wish they would find another way. Less flashbacks and more main story might help - setting up flashbacks for EVERY episode has been fun to watch for the most part thus far, but maybe it’s also created a box that the writers are having a hard time getting out of.

I’ve been wary about the progression of Lost, seeing as it comes from the creator of Alias - which started out as a pretty good show and just got more and more ridiclous and far-fetched as the seasons went on. I was hoping that Lindeloff would help this from recurring, but maybe he is not enough. I hope I am wrong and the show can pull it all together for us!

. He walked softly
. and
. carried a big stick

. ~ Rest in Peace ~

Maybe when faced with judgement and having to make the decision to own his sins and repent of them or justify them and deny having lived wrongly… he chose to justify them. Just a thought.

I wonder what would have happened if Eko had not followed Yemi/smokey into the woods after his anti-confession?

That is why there is seemingly forced dialogue… for example:

When Paulo asks about the plane and Nikki says that’s where Eko’s dead brother is… all of it is said this for the benefit of the guy who has no idea what’s in the plane…

When Nikki explains the Pearl as a viewing station connected to other stations of the Dharma initiative, it’s not for Lockes benefit, but for the viewing audience who doesn’t have a clue…

Some people are showing up late to the party, but we are glad they came. The downside is we have to endure seemingly bad dialogue…

If everyone would go buy or rent the DVD’s this wouldn’t be a problem, but alas…

My other comment is… regardless of the hand Eko was dealt in life, he commited terrible sins… and justice demands payment.

Eko’s greatest sin was the fact that he was unrepentant and justified his wrongs. The island let Eko judge himself.

No posible way for a land mass that size not to go unnoticed. Unless, people do go there regularly and Benry has the boys take care of them.

Perhaps more importantly…. does anyone else remember when the Tailies found the “Arrow” hatch and Eko found the Bible with the removed film clip from the “Swan”? Didn’t they also find a glass eye? If I remember correctly they did and that could explain a bit about ol’ Patchy. Does anyone else remember that glass eye?

Actually, I just wish the writers would write some good dialogue for ANY of the characters. It really has been sliding lately and this episode was the worst.

The producers won’t please all of the people all of the time, but I overall really enjoyed yesterday’s episode, minus the clunky multi screens thing between Nikki and Locke.

People are far too busy moaning about it not being like Season 1… Well, we’re two years down the line. Is your life exactly the same as it was 2 year ago? We get complaints from people saying its not Season 1, yet people complain the show isn’t moving fast enough… You guys put the producers in a no win situation. How can it be like Season 1, and yet need to move faster?

We’ve moved far quicker than ever before in the last 5 episodes. I don’t want everything ruined within 6 episodes that they’ve built up. I want the big reveal at the end. I don’t want to ruin it with big reveals half way through the series. This is a sci-fi suspense drama for lords sake!

If you don’t want to watch the show anymore people. Don’t. It won’t effect the 2nd biggest TV show in the world (1st if you divide CSI into its constituent parts) to the point where it will get cancelled before Season 4 anyway. Sky One have effectively paid for Season 4, so it will happen no matter what.

Jack is being played… don’t know exactly how… but then again maybe it’s Juliet being manipulated. All I know is there’s a lot more to be seen.

With the glimpse of the eye-patch guy, we’re being shown there’s more factions on the island. Remember the french lady, her daughter, the missing kids with dirty feet and teddy bears, etc… I think the next season or two should get really crazy with conflicts with groups we haven’t even encountered yet. I mean why would the Others be hiding on the small island?

I liked the episode, sad to see Eko leave, it was a little uneven (way too many plotlines in one episode), hope we find out more about the monster (or that there is more than one), and what the heck did the pilot do to deserve getting eatten in the first episode!?!

I’m sad about Eko on many levels. I’m disappointed that he killed in the church. He had the option of sparing that man’s life and didn’t. And I’m sad that he’s dead because he was a multi-dimentional charater, unlike our new “friends” who seem to have wandered off a photo shoot.

I’m curious to know if we should trust Juliet. And why doesn’t Jack ask “where’d you get the xray machine and all the equipment”? Juliet recording her own 3/4″ video? Why couldn’t she just spell something out in french fries?

Suddenly Sayid is back on the beach, and there is no mention of what happened to Sun or Jin. What’s up with that?

Anyway, yeah, not the strongest episode I have seen, but I didn’t hate it. I was disappointed to see Eko die, not becuase I was so attached to his character (in fact his quirky actions and over-wrought spirituality annoyed me most of the time), but because his character seemed so undeveloped and therefore had so much potential. I was intrigued to see where they were going to go with Eko, especially regarding his relationship with Locke.

I also don’t think Eko as a “bad man” was at all out of character. He was a drug-running warlord, turned fake priest. That is pretty bad, but he was the kind of bad guy that you feel for (thanks to poignant flashbacks of his childhood).

Totally agreed that the smoke monster bashing him up against the tree was lame. Come on, it is a smoke monster, not King Kong, but whatever. R.I.P. Eko.

Hmmm. The white tunics, the funeral and the creepy, somewhat inappropriate music piped through the speakers was interesting. Definitely plays into the idea of a cult and mind control. Would the Jack we know really wear a white tunic and follow Ben anywhere though? I thought that was out of character for Jack. Is Jack softening or is he gaining some control?

I think Juliet is for real based on our introduction to her in this season’s first episode: trying not to lose it, staring into the mirror and burning the muffins and later ranting about free will…which comes up again in her speech to Jack. To kill a Mocking Bird…Why that specific movie? Any ideas?

Nikki and Paolo seemed like the “Lost for Idiots” guides in this episode. They were there just to dumb things down enough for new viewers possibly (i.e. when they are on their way to the plane and the hatch they conveniently drop the info that Eko’s brother is in the plane).

I can’t wait to find out what is going on in the hatch with the eye patch guy. That was a great moment in an otherwise not so great episode. Oh and I want more Desmond! Anyone else curious about desmond and his interesting new ability to see the future (which just got brushed under the rug in this episode). Now if Desmond get’s bashed against a tree by a big smoke monster I will really be mad.

Like what I said before, all of you have very good comments and I really do not understand why sooooooooooooo many people do not like this episode. Push aside the small stuff like that you guys mentioned and look at the whats going on in the show. I think this episode, “The 23rd Psalm” and “?” were the best Mr Eko episodes from his character. I will explain myself, first off (with reguards to this show and in general) that EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. I will start off to say that there is another force that could make the Losties see things like the island for example. It does not allways have to the “black smoke monster”. Maybe the island and “smokie” are working togeather in deciding the Losties next course on the island. Think about it. Let me start in trems of people who died then I will go wider. Think about How, WHEN, and WHY some of the characters died. The first person to die and many of you may not see this as being important but believe he is. The first person to die was Marshall Mars. Imagine if he did not die or even get hurt, how would have things turned out for Kate and even the other Losties. Or even think what would have happened if he died immediately during the crash and never got a chance to have full conservations with Jack and showing him the mug shots. Then how would have things again turned out for Kate and possibly the other Losties. Marshall Ed Mars played a big role in determining Kate’s fate on the island. Her episodes and other episodes that she played a big role in prove this. Think about it. Next in line I would say has to be Boone who’s death had a big affect on EVERYBODY’S LIVES’. This is where I would say I HAVE to comment the most on. First lets start with Locke’s vision in “Deus Ex Machina”. What if the island never gave him this vision, then what would have happened. Next in line would be what would of haved happened if the island did not take away Locke’s legs when they had just reached the plane. Who would of haved climbed into the plane, Locke himself?
Sorry guys but urgent maters are at hand and I have to go. I will finish explaining myself sometime this weekend. In the mean time read my comments so far and tell me what you think so far. You will probly be confused but think about it. No I am not thinking to hard about it. Most of this stuff is in plain sight if you have the mind to think this way. SO please read and reply. I need to know if this makes sence to any one so I can explain in sinple terms. I have to go now, comment later.

Maybe ‘drug dealer with a heart of gold’ would be overstating it a bit!!! But don’t you think that they set up his character as someone who had this life-altering event (his brother’s death due to his actions), and who was trying to in some way repent for those actions? You expect him to have ‘relapses’ and all, but the way it ended last night made it seem as if he was just the same guy all along. This was a guy who took a 40-day vow of silence after he killed someone who was attacking him … suddenly, he thinks that he’s done nothing that needs forgiving?

Given all that the creative team has given us, and what they are trying to sustain, I am grateful for the world they have given us. No other show on TV, except for maybe Heroes, brings me back to the TV wanting to know what’s going to happen next. Even if I’m a little disappointed or underwhelmed, I still invest my time in the world of the show. It’s funny how we’ve come to expect so much as fans. All the “they should haves” and “could haves” are a testament to just how much this show makes us think! Honestly, what other drama on TV takes us to a whole other world every week, right on our own planet…quite the way that Lost does? And yes, we as fans have some fantastic ideas about how things should play out, and we preconceive more stuff than the writers could ever come up with. Unfortunately, it’s our own imaginations that get in the way sometimes.

So, in a nutshell for a review this week is:
Awesome show, it’s stimulated my imagination yet again to go away and theorize more about lots of things that may or may not come to pass. I may not like how some things turn out, but that’s ok!

And the smoke monster picking up Eko and throwing him was just stupid. Sorry.

And Rodrigo Santoro is gorgeous, but I don’t need to see him coming out of the potty, just so the writers can make the point that he’s a jerk. Yuk.

What is hard about accepting Nikki and Paolo is that we are being asked to instantly bond with and accept people we do not know, have not invested any time in and have no interest in doing so. It’s like your divorced mom announcing she’s remarrying and her new dude has three kids and now we’re instantly going to be one big happy family of love. That hardly ever happens!

I have a feeling that Benry’s tumor is another ruse to tame Jack. They couldn’t do it by breaking him down mentally, so now they are going to appeal to his ego (only you, Jack, Super Spinal Surgeon Man, can do this job) and his need to atone for the deaths of all the patients he lost on the operating table by saving Benry. Why they need to obtain Jack’s cooperation through his own free will is still a mystery. It seems like each of the Other captives are being led to the same outcome although through very different means.

Hope things even out during the Episode fest beginning 2/7.

The inclusion of the 2 new characters feel so contrived, oh sure they’re young and sexy, but they do not move the plot forward. By the way, what happened to the middle-aged couple from last season? Did they retire and relocate to another part of the island? ABC should have commissioned this program as a limited series, instead it is on the verge of turning into Twin Peaks, Alias, or worse The X-Files. Too many plot diversions will lead to viewer apathy.

Sorry to see Ecko go, I’ll miss the air of menace and melancholy he brought to the series. However I do like the evolution of Jack’s character as revealed lately, he is more patient and devious as a captive.

I will watch the next installment before considering LOST a waste of time which is lamentable–this show had me hooked.

That’s not to say I won’t return to the Transmission. I love the commentary and insight. Take care.

If the plot calls for the character to die, so be it, but Eko’s death seemed pointless and his resolution rushed in the same fashion that Ana-Lucia’s did. My biggest problem is now who is left to be Locke’s foil? First it seemed it was going to be Walt, and then he left. Then it was Eko, and now he’s gone. Could it be Desmond?

In regards to the new Losties, Nikki and Paolo - I’m leaving judgement until we get to know and see a little more about them. I do think thus far their inclusion has been worthless. Why not have Sun and Jin tag along with Locke, Sayid and Desmond? Or Charlie and Hurley for that matter. There are already established characters on this show that we don’t need more. One of the best qualities of this show was that it never lowed itself to what other shows do to grab viewers - showcase talentless eye-candy. But again I’m going to wait to see how these characters develop before completely writing them off.

The more I see Juliette, the more and more I get the feeling that she may be the darker one compared to Ben. There is something very sinister and cold about her smile and her eyes. Sure on the surface she appears sweet and sincere, but I can’t help feeling she is like a trapped animal and is willing to do whatever it takes to get out. One thing that is striking to me is her obvious skills at manipulation. She has Jack pretty much trained that she is fully comfortable/confident to come into his side of the room and sit cross-legged on the table while talking to him. For a fertility doctor, she seems more like a well-trained psychologist. Oh..and I’m sorry, but she looks nothing like Sarah (Julie Bowen). The only similarities I see is that they are both white women.

Some other things that I am hoping the show will go back to are:

- Michael and Walt. Did they or didn’t they make it out safe and alive? It would just be nice to know what happened to close that loose end.

- What exactly happened to Eko, Locke and Desmond when the hatch imploded?

- What is up with the guys in the Arctic scene in last season’s finale? To have last season end with that, and here we are on episode 5 and it hasn’t been revisited is strange to me. If you had missed that scene, would it even matter? I have to honestly say that when Episode 1 of this seaon aired, I thought Juliette was Penelope. They look more alike than she and Sarah.

- Where the heck is Vincent? Did he finally get eaten by a polar bear? Maybe he’s with eye-patch guy?

- Where the heck is Danielle?

That’s it for now. Next week’s episode has a lot to make up for.

The reference to the resurrection was a nice touch and does Juliet really think “he” doesn’t know what she did?

This is the first time that I can remember that the smoke monster identified itself as being other than what it appeared. For instance, if we believe that Christian Shephard was also the smoke monster, he never said to Jack, “You talk to me as if I am really your father.”

I thought that was a really interesting aspect to the show. Maybe the smoke monster likes to play it like that before it does you in.

The Losties dialogue was absolutely contrived. Probably some of the worst yet on the show and Nikki and Paolo really did not help that at all. I am hoping they are just there to be killed off, blown up, shot, drowned, whatever, because if these are the replacements for Ana Lucia, Libby, Eko it is a sad day in the evolution of Lost.

This show is notorious for leaving the obvious unsaid which can be so frustrating that when they finally do say the obvious it sounds so stupid. The first time they went to the Pearl I thought they should think more about the other cameras. I know these things are left unspoken so they can be revisited as future plots and I think this was a perfect case in point. But don’t make it so contrived when you finally do get around to exploring that idea since we’ve all been thinking it since day one!

Also, why doesn’t Jack just explode in a rant and say to Benry:

I will save your life, if you will just tell me:

Who are you people? Why are you here on this island? Where are we? How did you get here? What are you doing here? What is your purpose? If you claim to be good, tell me who you are and how you are good?

— and that would be peppered with a lot of expletives —

I know that if Benry answered all that it would take all the fun out of the story arc… but I have to say that is the most realistic thing that Jack could say or do, instead of what he has been saying or doing. I know he asked it to Juliet but he didn’t really freak out on it or stress it. If I was crashed on an island and these people took me captive, I would definitely be asking Where in god’s name are we? Who the hell are you people? They want something from Jack. If I were Jack, I would want those answers.

Jack killing Benry isn’t in his nature. Jack saves people. That’s what he does (or tries to do). But maybe, they want to do something out of character for Jack so they can have a Jack flashback that leaves us dubious about his nature too. But if he does kill Benry, believe me, he is going to regret it. He is going to find out that he was set up and that Benry really was one of the good guys and that Juliet is just out for some revenge because Benry burned her by not wanting to be part of her Stephen King book club… ok it’s probably deeper than that, like scorned her in love…

Granted Nikki popped in a bit late after Libby died (or did Nikki replace Ana Lucia) but do a tally. It’s actually pretty sad. The first season you have a character die and it really meant something. Now they remove characters left and right and just slide in some new eye candy.

For the show I give a resounding…meh. Depending on how you view the seasons is how you can view the show. Compared to the first season the show was terrible. Compared to this season the show was par for the course. Let me explain.

The first season you had a real mystery going on. People crashed on an island and they are trying to figure a way off while trying to understand the crazy crap that was going on around them. You also had real character development. There was heart to the show and that is one of the things that made it so successful.

The second season you still had mystery with the hatch and plenty of conflict with the others and the tailies. There was still some good character development and plenty of mysteries. Unfortunately many more questions popped up than answers but the second season was still quite good.

The third season doesn’t really have any of what made the first two seasons so successful. One of the big reasons Lost was so successful seems to be seriously lacking: heart. We know just about all there is to know about the main characters which makes the back-stories just boring. Echo killed some guys and went to London? Big deal. Locke grew pot? Yawn.

There really isn’t any more mystery either. At least nothing that seems all that interesting. The others? I looks like they are just a bunch of Dharma people who decided to stay on the island. They know how to leave and they also know about what happens outside. So why do they stay and why do they not help the other castaways? Those are about the only questions left and I’m not sure the answers will be anything better than, “They’re crazy and a bunch of jerks.”

Even though this post is pretty negative I’m still going to watch the show. I really loved Lost even though I think that they may have gotten a bit off track. I think that the show just hast to return some of the mystery and heart back and things will be fine. After all, if Heroes can do it then Lost should be able to.

if the rumors are true and AAA wanted off the show then fine. done. let him go. i don’t really care that they kill of characters we like b/c that is what i always found to be so bold about LOST - they never really stuck to conventional tv formula in that regard. but why not have the polar bear kill him two epis ago? for that matter, why not kill Ekko off back at the hatch implosion so that we could have focused on one of the MANY other storylines that keep popping up? watching Ekko get flung around like a paper doll after a year and a half of building up his individual strength and perserverence was the biggest ‘huh?’ moment i’ve ever had watching this show. we’d already established that Ekko stood his ground when physically confronted by the smoke moster. that was one of the coolest moments of last season. and so … what? Ekko is ‘afraid’ of the monster now? why now? cuz he’s physically weak? or did the smoke monster change its mind and now wants to kill Ekko? the magnetic force relieved its shackles and now it kills at will? then how do you explain it killing the pilot back at the start of the show? none of it makes any sense. but even more than not making any sense … it was a cop-out and a crappy way to send off a BAD ASS character we’ve grown to love.

as opposed to the new characters, who we all agree are tremendously annoying. they don’t fit in to the group - they seem like they just got off the plane from LA and landed on the set LOL. actually i was over them BEFORE they got to the new hatch — as they were approaching the clearing and Paolo asks “what’s Ekko doing?” and Niki replies “that’s the plane where his brother died” or some such other trite dialogue. WTF??? are you kidding me?? it was as if the Network leaned over to Damon/Lindeloff and said “you know, american audiences are far too stupid to remember what happened LAST season. have the new girl say something about his brother being in the plane ….”

was anyone else as insulted as i was????

ugh … i used to stand firm that LOST was the best show on tv. but i’m sad to say that i’m just not feeling it anymore. not much was resolved this week and we are once again given more questions than answers and now they go on hiatus vacation until february? next week better be good …

thank god we still have Battlestar Gallactica.

I dont understand why people don’t like Paolo and Nikki, but i think their addition to the story has been treated in a very forced manner and I agree that the show was looking for more eye candy and not substance.

Eko’s revelation to Locke at the end that they ‘are next’ was very anti-climactic. No kidding they are next, everyone is next on this show. That was a great opportunity for a great reveal, or even an opportunity for Locke to keep it to himself as a secret as a cliffhanger.

I’m getting bored with the show, not because there aren’t enough answers, but because the production values and the dialogue has gotten flat.

I think they are milking this story to extend the series, but simple fact is if future episodes are as flat as last night’s there isn’t going to be an audience watching season 4.

I won’t go into anything else too much, as I agree with most of the comments above, especially regarding the newbies, but the one thing I did like and found intriguing was Juliet’s message to Jack. It worked for me, and I can’t wait to see what she’s got up her sleeve.

One last thing…when Locke said “Don’t I feel stupid now?” it was the first time I ever harbored the idea Lost had lost its touch. Sad.

Two days before the planes crashes, Ben finds out that he has a spinal tumor. The plane crashes, if this is just some normal group, why wouldn’t they just befriend any survivors? Had they befriended any survivors, I’m sure Jack would have gladly performed surgery on Ben. However, since Ben’s people have been sneaky and threatening, they had to come up with this whole plan to “break” Jack. Of all the quest