We’re in the final 5 minutes of the episode…and just as Michael and Walt are pulling the boat away from the dock, the unthinkable happens. The satelite TV goes out. I sit there in stunned silence. My guests boo me as they leave the party. WHAT JUST HAPPENED???

I awake at 6:00am to watch the episode’s ending on abc.com.

Btw, email me or add me on msn ~ randompinkbutton18@hotmail.com

I am so going to be checking here from now on when season 3 rolls around.

GOOD NEWS FOR LOST ADDICTS - Dominic Monaghan was on a chat show in the UK this weekend and said that they start filming again in about 3 weeks

One thing has puzzled me for some time. If you cast your minds back to Season 1, when Sayid goes walkabout to explore the island, he finds the cable coming from the sea which eventually leads him to Rousseau. What was it? Where does it come from? Does it add fuel to the Atlantis theory? Is there an underwater hatch and is this where the Others actually live?

I am still digesting the various hapenings in the finale but like Ira, I immediately thought of the last scenes of the original Planet of the Apes when I saw the remains of the statue. End of the civilised world???

Lost Mysteries

i think it is a test to see how far one will go for survival during disaster. Look how Michael betrayed his friends, Hurley left his friends and Locke stopped the numbers from being pushed. Every one is going crazy, trying to save themdelves It’s like the movie ‘SAW’, this is crazy.

The only thing we knew for certain about Henry Porter was that his name wasn’t Henry Porter.
– Bob Dylan, “Brownsville Girl”

The real plan by non-Henry was to setup Locke (mess with his mind) so that he wouldn’t push the button, and so he would keep anyone else from pressing it too. I think (a la Groundhog Day) that non-Henry had tried various strategies in previous time-loops, and finally came up with the right sequence of events to tweak Locke’s mind into doing exactly what he wanted to do.

The question comes up, why couldn’t not-Henry destroy the computer, or keep the button from being pushed, all by himself? Why couldn’t not-Henry and his band of merry men just invade the hatch and destroy everything? Why did Locke have to do it?

The only answer I can think of is that ONLY Desmond, and the Dharma guys before him in the hatch, knew about the “key.” What not-Henry really wanted was to get someone to find and use that “key,” and NOT let the Island destroy itself through a violent magnetic storm which would also restart the time-loop.

Not-Henry knew far too much about the Losties, about how they would behave, and about how they would react. In other words, he must have had a peak into the near-term future.

Not Henry also had a look of satisfaction (more than relief) after the painful noise ended, and he knew that the key had been turned.

Less certain: I believe the Island still has its electromagnetic properties. What it not longer has in operation is the device Dharma or whoever had been using to harness that energy to whatever purpose. If that purpose was teleportation via electromagntism (ala Philadelphia Experiment) perhaps a once-mobile Island is now stuck in place…and located by the arctic monitoring station.

Speaking of those guys, from the accents I assume they are up north, not down south…likely near the northern magnetic pole.

Things still bothering me: like many others have noted, Charlie’s nonchalance is odd, as is the elaborate plan by the others to capture a group they had in hand previously.

I don’t think Walt is Walt. I’ve had a bee in my bonnet about cloning for quite some time. Bad Twin, the twin Others, and the extraction of something from Claire’s unborn baby (stem cells?) play into this. So did Michael get Walt back, or an Other-grown version of him?

September is a long way away.

As for the 4-toed statue, so far I like the Atlantis explanation best.

Alexis — I used to share your thought that the Others were a THIRD group (not the Losties and not Dharma). This sort of falls apart in my opinion under scrutiny. The Others were *definitely* the group that abducted Claire — Ethan and Tom “Zeke” Friendly and Alex Rousseau were all there. They also all had scientific garb in addition to their “Others” costumes. The same outfit Kelvin/Ingram used… and he’s the first one of the Others that we’ve seen OFF the island.

Now… it’s possible that these guys were unaffiliated with Dharma/Hanso but continued to use their equipment and then hid it so the Losties wouldn’t find it. But that’s a lot of supposition.

I can’t recall if Ingram referenced the “Hostiles” to Desmond but he may have done so tongue-in-cheek. Desmond definitely referred to them, but he has no concept of “Others” — just hostile or not.

The Others may be disenfranchised from Hanso or Dharma (after being stuck on the isaland all this time), but I can’t imagine how they could be a third party.

They ARE NOT part of the Dharma Initiative. They are against it AND Hanso Foundation.
Think of them as sort of a GREEN PEACE. Trying to thwart Hanso Foundations greater goals. Why do I think this ?

They keep saying they are the GOOD ones. Most people that consider themselves
freedom fighters etc say stuff like this.
The Hanso Foundations Website and the Persiphone deal… Hackers trying to get the word out of how bad/misleading Hanso Foundation is. Maybe The others are part of this movement.

Also… Kelvin and Desmond mention “Hostiles” on the Island.. I am certain they probably mean the others.. If the others were part of Dharma or Hanso Foundation why would they be considered “Hostiles” by Kelvin… A true Dharma Initiative employee ?

One thing about this though. Zeek/Tom/Bearded guy said in the “don’t cross this line” episode..” one man smarter than anybody here once said …” and went on to quote something Alvar Hanso siad about Curiousity.. Avlar said this on the Hanso Foundation Website. Looks like Zeek/Tom/Bearded guy had some respect for Alvar..so why go against his company ??

My explanation… According the Persephone (hacker from Hanso Website) Alvar has been missing for a few years.. hinting at..” who is runing Hanso Foundation?”
Maybe these guys..the others are Alvar Loyalists that want to bring the truth out that Hanso Foundation has been taken over.. Is Alvar Dead? Has he been taken Hostage ? By whom? maybe Widmore Corporation ?… hmmmm

Other evidence ? It is almost obvious now that Henry DID push the button. But he told locke he didn’t. Why ? To get them to STOP pushing the button… If they were part of Dharma or working WITH hanso why would they want to kill the experiment?… Answer: They are Not part of Dharma or the present Hanso foundation. They are working against it…

Other stuff…

Atlantis… I know this has been discussed before… but Atlantis in just about EVERY reference you read about it is considered to be ” The LOST city”

That STATUE foot had a Sandal on… A fallen great statue of a once great civilization ? Think of Ancient Greece Parthenon and the Egyptian Pyramids ?

Four toes? not sure what that meant. but whay the hell did people first think when they saw the Sphinx ? That has a hell of a lot more ” What the hell?” factor than a foot with four toes…

Atlantis was tought to be LOST to the sea..Swallowed up by the ocean…
WHo knows…maybe the Electromagnetic Interferance/uniqueness was caused by a giant meteor crashing millions of years ago… making the island inpossible to find by traditional means …Most meteors have a lot of metals in them I hear (mostly IRON)..

Maybe Hanso foundation found the Island by accident back in the 70’s while doing some studdies in electomagnitism.. and then decided to set up a base here…
think of it as the perfect laboratory..no one can find if through conventional means..you could do a lot there without having to worry about rules/laws or anti-research or religious groups (animal testing, human cloning..etc)

Widmore Corporation and Hanso may be rivals now…or fighting for Power.
Power could be many things.. maybe Patent rights for reseach etc, Government contracts ? who knows…

The others maybe thought the Losties were there as a PLOT against them…
and now realize that they are not. Maybe Widmore or Hanso once sent in a group possing as plane crash survivors but were really there to hurt/kill the others…

Where am I getting this from..

Oceanic Flight site once mentioned a flight 777. Maybe this flight was a FAKE crash… and the “survivors” were there to befriend and infiltrate the others…Hence the other’s hostility towards the losties now…

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Ecko and Locke are not dead..
Charlie could not have been more than about 15 seconds ahead of Ecko and Locke… He barely had a scratch on him.. Maybe when this new “incident” happened they all got up and Ecko and Locke made peace and decided to go to one of the other hatches again on the map..they decided this after Charlie left for the beach.. Charlie saw them before he left hence his comment “They’re not back yet?”
it would also explain his laid back attitude… Surely had he seen them dead he would have acted a little differently. Also the “They’re not back yet?” comment seemd to imply theat he saw them after the “incident”. As for Desmond… I do not know. Maybe he’ll end up like Marvin Candle ? With a dead arm ? the Arm that turns the key ??? I hope he lives…

Hurley I’m going back.
Jack No, Hurley. Hurley, you can’t!
Hurley We’re all going to get killed and you knew it! You let us come anyway.
Jack It’s too late to go back now, Hurley. We already caught them following us once. If they don’t believe that we trust Michael, they’ll kill us all. I’m sorry that I didn’t say anything. But you have to know that I would never bring you out here if I didn’t have a plan.
Sawyer What plan?

Why does Jack believe that the Others will kill them all if Hurley turns back? Why do the rest believe him? It seems bizarre that they could be killed if one turned back but not killed if they show up with Sayid later. If they were being tracked when they turned back, why wouldn’t they be tracked again as they near Sayid?

has anyone else wondered why the hatch has (had) a state of the art washer and dryer but still relied on that very old computer?

That’s been bugging me, too. Especially since the rest of the decorations are intended to be period ones (e.g., record player not CD, 16mm projector but not VCR).

i read something that quoted (i think) j.j. and damon talking about the introduction of new characters next season and where they came from being a surprise. (they also mentioned less flashbacks, which i see as a good thing at this point). i would guess that between the others and the folks we saw in the “real world”, we have our “new” characters.

but…

wouldn’t it be, well, “funny” if this second electromagnetic overload incident brought down another plane?

i love this forum, but damnit, i get less work done because of it.

If the “black cloud” becomes whatever someone thinks, then how come no one else saw Hurley’s “Dave” or Jack’s father? Yet, multiple people saw the black cloud staring-down Eko. multiple people saw the black cloud pulling Locke into the hole, both Sawyer and Kate saw the white horse, and multiple people saw the polar bear.

Also, Kate saw the white horse off the island, how did that happen?

I do tend to believe the black cloud is some kind of energy force that can be mentally manipulated. Hmm.. was there an ESP experiement on the Island?

I think the plane crash was an accident, but only the first time. We’ll find out that the crash was being repeated over and over again because the “Others” were hoping for different outcome (like Desmond actually turning the key).

“Gary Troup” can be an anagram of “Purgatory”, but Cuse/Lindelof/Abrams have stated “not Hell, not Purgatory”.

“(I also don’t have a clue what kind of points the above poster is making… there’s one pic up there where Henry Gale appears to have four toes, but the rest seems like a huge reach.)”

If you were referring to me….Yeah, as I said is was based on ‘what if’, nothing to do with any concrete evidence. Just a niggling feeling I have had for a while. Nothing more than that….just waffling & sharing my theories.

If I had said 18 months ago that I thought the monster was black smoke that reads minds, that would have been considered a huge reach too

http://usera.imagecave.com/thinbluemime/s02e23-24HR-1129combo.jpg

In my opinion this clearly shows, as stated above, that the Brazilian guy and Jack are not the same. They shapes of the earlobes and eyes are completely different. If you’re just looking for a white guy with stubble then I might as well be Jack. (Has Matthew Fox ever NOT played a character with perma-stubble?)

(I also don’t have a clue what kind of points the above poster is making… there’s one pic up there where Henry Gale appears to have four toes, but the rest seems like a huge reach.)

I don’t like that they “cheated” with Desmond’s picture. The woman in the picture earlier in the season was clearly somebody else and that kind of bugs me. I know, I know. It might not have been practical to get the same lady to play Penny, but it takes me out of the story somewhat. I’m weird.

Then there’s the 4-toed statue….were the toes webbed?

‘We’re taking them home with us’…..I was just waiting for a submarine to pop up to take them to their underwater city.

But that is just based on ‘what if’ rather than what I’ve seen in the series.

They’ll probably be taken to another island just over the horizon, and that will be a more logical thing to happen….lmao….then again, if there’s a black smoke creature that can read minds, why not fishmen?

The look between Jack & Kate at the end I believe to be ‘everything’s going to plan’. They could have easily have gotten the truth out of Michael after they all found out about his wicked ways, found out they were going to be captured, then formed the plot from there. The only unknown then would be why Sawyer didn’t seem to be in on the plan, unless he just doesn’t like those 2 making goo-goo eyes at each other…..

Jack was trying to tell Kate: “Don’t worry, I told you I have a plan” (Sayid)

Kate’s blink was: “Damn Jack, I hope you’re right!”

Now, if the plane crashed accidentally then it follows that they were not brought to the island on purpose. Why, then, were all these people, who had clear connections before meeting on the island (Sawyer & Jack’s dad, Hurley & Libby etc etc) on the plane together? Were they being brought somewhere else?

I believe one of two things (not sure which, yet)

1. The plane WAS NOT brought down by Desmond forgetting to push the button. It was something else that brought it down, on purpose.

2. The plane WAS brought down by Desmond not pushing the button, but all these people were on it for another reason. They were being taken somewhere else, together. Where and why are the questions, though.

The “vaccine” does seems to make people happy and carefree. A great idea if you were conducting an experiment like this.

Steve, I’m not sure we know enough to agree with everything in your theory, but it could work.

Can someone point to any evidence that this is not a “Groundhog Day” scenario?

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(movie)

Let’s say there are a few people (i.e., Dharma Scientists) who realize that catastrophic events are repeating themselves, and they are constantly try to rearrange things (like Bill Murray’s “Phil Conners” character) in the past to create a different end-result (like getting out of a time-loop). A Groundhog Day theory would simply explain so many details and coincidences in Lost (like Ethan and Goodwin joining both groups of Losties at the right time, that there was a list of Lostie Names to abduct, not-Henry saying the right things to Locke at the right time, and the “Others” seem to do so many things according to a script that only has slight changes each time it is used).

Yes, yes, yes.. I know the producers said LOST was not in a time warp, but wouldn’t you deny it too if it was the simple explanation?

Time-Loop, how?? Super-Magnetism can do some pretty strange stuff… just ask Einstein.
http://www.stresscure.com/hrn/einstein.html

Does anyone want to take a shot at why the Groundhog Day theory wouldn’t work?

There was a little discontinuity with the Dharma key for me. Desmond got it out of his book on the bookshelf, but in an earlier episode Locke was carefully going through all those books, turning them upside down, seeing if anything was there between the pages. Hard to believe that Locke somehow missed this. Conversely, hard to believe Desmond would have a) taken the key with him and b) replaced the book on the bookshelf on a temporary return to the hatch.

The Others clearly don’t seem to care about the pressing of the button. They clearly know about hatches.

Some have said that there were multiple people in the yellow haz-mat suits picking up Desmond, but it appears to be just one person (Kelvin) with multiple exposures, an effect of Desmond being out of it.

Pity me, Im a kid.

Your theory works, and I think a lot of fans have been thinking along similar lines. I hadn’t thought about the smoke being people, though. Hmmm.

1) Locke, who had helped him get off the drugs, then later turned his back on him, called him a liar & beat him up.

2) Eko, who Charlie found solace with after being rejected by everyone else, and found some sort of redemption over his actions with Aaron, then turned his back on him in favour of the hatch. ‘Move your own damn things’.

At the end, neither of them would listen to him. Eko would not stop with the dynamite, and Locke would not open the door. Eko even pushed Charlie off of him when he was trying to help him out of the hatch.

Now, Eko may have done this as a ’save yourself’ kind of thing, but perhaps Charlie thought of this as a final straw of rejection. Now with both of them missing, his reaction is ‘meh, they don’t care about me, so I don’t care about them’. Of course all 3 of them left in the hatch will be alright, otherwise we would have at least seen a glimpse of the devestation.

Onto other questions from the finale…..what about the person they shot in the jungle, and the other got away? Were they ‘others’ or ‘other others’?

I too am ‘disturbed’ by the lack of the black smoke monster of late. I felt it was built up to be such a big thing, then we had the big reveal, the nothing? Why not take that opportunity to explain what it is and how on earth it is actually in existance. Are the smoke and Big Bird related?

Also confused about Henry’s motives of telling Locke that he never pressed the button. Was it to simply plant false seeds in John’s mind? If it was such a devestating thing to not press the button, surely Henry knew that doing what he did may cause the button from not being pushed, thus setting off the ‘mega magnet’? The only reason it was stopped was by chance Desmond had returned with the key, so I think doing what Henry did risked not just the ‘losties’, but the others, the other others, and the whole island…..perhaps that will be addresses in later eps, or perhaps I’m reading too much into it (but every aspect of the show can be delved into for a myriad of things, so why not this? )

Also, Rouseau. If she has been on the island for so long, and it seems that Alex is taken along on these little adventures, how is it that they have never crossed paths?

Back to things that seems like coincidences but are not…..

- I think the plane was crashed on purpose, as do many others here. It just seems that the plane was always meant to crash on the island, and that was the perfect way to do it…..set off the magnet. However, again, if this is the case, how could they be assured Desmond would get back in a reasonable enough time to stop it?

- Henry was captured on purpose to infiltrate the group, find the leaders, formulate who to capture, etc. I think Locke was supposed to be in the group, but after seeing how easily he could be broken, I think he was discarded as a potential addtion to the group.

I have alot more, and I’m sure everyone else does, but this post is long enough as it is to leave those thoughts for another day…..

OK it all starts with a man named Alvar Hanso. He was a man of faith. He loved all the world’s phenomenon. He also loved studing the way humans work. He grew up and went to college where ever it may have been and met a man. A man that would later become his best friend. This man’s name was Widmore. I forgot his first name, but his last name was Widmore. Widmore was a man of science. He also had the same fascination with the world’s phenomenon and he began to study it with his friend Alvar Hanso. Late in Life they became Partners in a single unkown company. This company did not last and due there scientific and faith based issues they split and even grew to hate each other. They became arch rivals and both tried to study the same thing. This was the South Pacific Green Flash. The Green Flash is a phenomenom in the sky that happens only on certain nights in certain areas of the the south pacific. This happens only for a few minutes before the sun sets. Alvar Hanso was looking for a secluded spot to do his studies and came upon a uninhabited island. This island is the island our Lost cast is on right now. Any back to Alvar Hanso. In order to claim the island as his he had a massive statue built of himself off the shore of the island pointed toward the Green Flash. Alvar Hanso spawned the Dharma Initiative through the Hanso Foundation. The dharma initiative were a group of extremely smart scientists such as Marvin Candle that Alvar Hanso hired to run multiple tests on the island. They tested many things such as the human pysche, zoology, electromagnetism, and much more. Widmore found out about this secret island and always would try to infiltrate the island and hack into his system whether it would be through a boat or in a ballon. That is why the ballon has the widmore logo on it. These test were a hige success. They made huge advances especially in the human psyche. They were even able to find out a way for a person to move things eventually very large things with there mind. he was able to move there thoughts pysically all around the island. These test subjects were even able to read minds. This was all fine and dandy until th incident. The incident which is unknown destroyed the dharma initiative and there were only a few that survived. These survivers are the others. Those people who were able to convert there thoughts into pyshical form were in that process and died in that process. there thoughts were stuck to roam the island and protect it. This is used by the others and it is the black cloud that roams around and kill of all the bad people as order by the others. This black smoke also read the mind of eko and we were able to see those thought inside the cloud as it was reading eko’s mind. The cloud was going to kill eko because it thought that he was originally a bad person via all the drug dealing and killing eko has done, but when it saw how he helped his brother and became a preist it decided to leave eko alone. This cloud is also responsible for the whispers and for all the illusions. As I said it takes on the form of the person’s thoughts. It was the polar bear that attacked michael and walt after walt read the comic with the polar bear. And in that flash back in that episode michael gave walt a polar bear doll right before he left. The smoke was also the horse that kate saw because there was a horse in kates flashback. And the smoke was hurley’s friend from the mental hospital. The smoke was also Jack’s father in the begining of season one. It is unknown how kelvin arrived on the island but we all know how desmond arrved on the island and why the lost cast is oon the island. Now it is all up to the show to unfold what happens next and all I know is that I can’t wait for season 3!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tappa … yes I caught that and thought HUH? What’s up with THAT? I then dismissed it because I figured it was a slip by the actor. But who knows?

Again, that was NOT an EMP that occurred when the button wasn’t pushed. An EMP only occurs with a nuclear detonation.

It was marked on the screen of the two guys in the ice tent as a “magnetic anomoly.” I do not believe that Penny was using it to search for Desmond but do think her father is part of the Dharma group.

dzt66 thanks for the link!

The mark on Michael’s forehead? I thought it was from being knocked around by the Others, but again, who knows?

If the button was real, why was “Henry Gale” trying to convince Locke that it wasn’t? If he really knew what was going to happen when the timer ran out, wouldn’t it be in his interest to keep the status quo going?

Interesting that when Gale told Michael that he wasn’t happy with the trade arrangement, he said something to the effect of “considering we got more than we bargained for with Walt, maybe this is for the best” You could interpret that to mean that they couldn’t handle Walt and his powers, and it was best to just get him out of town.

At the very end, when the Others are lifting Jack, Kate and Sawyer off their knees, the woman guarding Kate reaches around and cops a major feel off her. Is that a clue that the Island is just a home for swingers and alternative lifestyles? That could explain all the costumes:)

Quite interesting. Talk about keeping the buzz up for the summer!

Theory about Penny…

I think that Penny’s dad works for Hanso - that is where all of her money comes from. She knows that his projects are related to elctromagnetism. She also knows that he would do anything to keep Desmond away from her. Her dad sponsored the race so when he went missing she knew that her father must be behind Desmond’s disappearance. So she set up the team to watch for the surge and detect where he was.

Yes to the two people who thought the guy in the ice tent was M. Fox. My jaw dropped when I saw him and I thought NOW what are they doing??

EMP’s … NOT what occurred on the island. EMP’s are a direct result of a nuclear detonation. Do a google search. My thought was there was a release of stored up magnetic energy which would have repulsed the hatch door up into the air (a loooong way up) rather than blasted it upwards.

Charlie… anyone ever hear of shock? I suspect our hapless little rocker is in a state of shock from being hammered by the dynamite explosion then nearly smashed by the washer and dryer. Also, there were several items that would not possible have been affected by a magnetic field that when flying by his head … an aluminum skillet for one. Also I doubt that Eko’s cross was steel (probably sterling) so why was it affected?

The others most definitely WERE surprised and shocked by the “incident.”

I suspect that once the built up magnetic energy is released, a “capping” mechanism goes back into place and the countdown sequence begins again. And btw, anyone besides me notice the computer they are using is an old Apple IIe?

I need to go rewatch the last 2 eps because I could have sworn Hurley had a gun at the end.

Libby’s late husband was “David” and “Dave” was imaginary. Timeline could have been she was a clinical psychologist FIRST, then lost her husband, then lost control and had to be hospitalized.

Love the references to Homer. Thanks for pointing that out.

Sad I missed all the Hanso commercials but we live in the sticks and don’t get ABC (really! It’s like an ep of LOST) so I finally bought them via iTunes and they come with no commercials, not even the phony ones. Darn.

How did Goodwin and Ethan arrive at the two separate crash sites so quickly if the plane crashed “accidentally?”
Why were they wearing the right clothes to fit in with the Losties?

If the magnetic field was strong enough to pull the plane down and damage the plane’s equipment, how come the computer continued to work? An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that strong would have crashed computers and fried electronic equipment.

The Good Guys didn’t seem very surprised by the hatch “explosion” Did they expect it? and..
The compass heading the Good Guys gave Michael wouldn’t have helped if the magnetic field was still in place. Did they know the magnetic field would be turned off?

(Hmm.. it’s all starting to sound like the movie “Groundhog Day”)

I thought one of the key lines of the episode was delivered by Desmond, as the importance of pressing the button was all coming together for him. He said something along these lines to Locke: “There is no purpose, there’s no such thing as destiny but you saved my life once and now I am going to save yours”.
So, there is no purpose, it is all random and yet even the random has significance. We have been seeing examples of “interconnectedness” all throughout the season and yet this scene with Desmond and Locke seemed to drive it all home.
Locke saving Desmonds life, unwittingly, by bashing on the hatch door and screaming and of course Desmond, unwittingly giving Locke hope to continue his efforts getting into the hatch and furthering his “belief” in the island simply by turning on a light at just the right moment. And perhaps the biggest of all, Desmond, unwittingly bringing down the plane.

I’d like to know… If the Others are the ‘good guys’ then is there another group or abstract sort of beings (like the smoke) that are the ‘bad guys’? Cause how can the passengers of flight 815 be evil when they crashed by accident/ don’t know what half the stuff is on the island.

Also, just another thought… was-Henry Gale isn’t the big boss. He’s pretty high up and likely to use his influence on those lower than him. But what’s up with him saying that he couldn’t go back.. ‘He’ would kill him? Was that just talk? Maybe Henry and his Other friends are being manipulated by a bigger guy, so they actually are the ‘good guys’.

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Lord Kelvin (if not Calvin) has some connections with electricity, so it’s maybe a good name for the electromagnetic hatch.

The blown hatch bothers me because it wasn’t closed, it had already been blown and was lying beside the opening. For it to have been blown up in the air would have required total obliteration of that area, and Charlie with it. But it’s probably artistic license.

Good Guys, Bad Guys, and Why the Monument only Had 4 Toes..
with screen caps….

Guys,……Where are we?…..

My theories after reading all the prior posts.

The LOST Producers have said that Lost is not in a time warp. How about a warp across dimensions (including time and space), because of the super magnetic properties of the Island?

How could super magnetism create such havoc? Read about a World War II event called The “Philadelphia Experiment.”
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-1.htm

The “Good Guys” seem to know the future, and plan accordingly.

The fact that the prior lives of the Losties overlap, and the magic Numbers are everywhere, suggest that the crash was not a coincidence.

Turning the key may reset or reversed the magnetic properties of the Island. And the Portuguese crew must have seen it happen before.

Why, if the Others wanted Kate, Jack and Sawyer, didn’t they take them when they had them before with Locke and send Locke back? Because the “Time” was right. If you know what will happen, you wait for the right moment.

‘Henry’ said to Michael something like ‘we got more than we bargained for when Walt joined us’. I wonder if Walt has the power to slip thru alternate dimensions that have been created by “incidents” on the Island… like not pushing the button.

“Not pushing the button” may have occurred on past occasions (reality is then reset) and reality is slowly reduced to only those events that interrelate to just the Losties. Imagine a copy machine, copying the same thing over and over, until only the basic part of the original image is left. All of the original details are gone. But each new irregularity from one copy will be copied onto the next and become exaggerated.

Does the “Other’s” ferry travel across dimensions, rather than water?

Maybe the Island doesn’t move, “outside reality” does.

Hurley, Jack, Kate, and Michael have a plan. Sawyer has been left out. Each give Jack the “look.”

and finally…. Big Bird is “Him” - I couldn’t resist