One of Them
A good episode. One of the stronger this season. Jen definitely thinks it was a good notch above both “Fire + Water” and “The Long Con.” I think it fits well, and now together the sense of direction this season is more clear.After the brief drought in mythological elements, it was great to have a focus on the “Others,” and the Jack-Locke showdown over the armory combination was incredible. What happens when the counter hits zero? Well, Jen felt pretty cheated to find that, essentially, Jack was right — nothing happened. Something sure as heck was about to happen, and it sure sounded big… but it looks like that’s one promised “answer” that we’re going to have to wait for. I don’t think fans are going to stand for a third fake out, though. I’m just saying.
Speaking of “answers,” though, at least we got one stubborn question solved — Hurley’s weight. In fact, while “One of Them” had great dramatic moments, it still had us laughing out loud thanks to the Sawyer/Hurley “frog hunt” subplot. But in a growing series of surprising twists, we certainly didn’t expect Sawyer’s last act. He seemed on the verge of feeling sympathy for Hurley’s turtle story, and fought it the only way he knew how. Or, maybe he just wanted to ensure he wasn’t about to end up with a friend again.
The flashback was pretty good, too. We see where Sayid made the much-touted promise to himself… a promise he’s now broken twice. A surprising amount of CGI, though. Not bad for primetime TV.
I’m definitely intrigued at how quickly our survivors are fragmenting. Instead of factions, we’re seeing lots of rogues. Charlie was ostracized. Sawyer made everyone his enemy. The rift between Locke and Jack grows. It’s still unclear how well the Tailies are integrating. And now, it seems Sayid is forging his own path as well.
Notes and links:
- Is the captured “Other” really an “Other”? Jen says no, pointing to Locke’s remark about everything being relative — to Danielle, everyone is an “Other.” I vote yes, based mostly on the look on the man’s face after Jack pulls Sayid back. Oh, and there’s his name, Henry Gale… Dorothy’s uncle in The Wizard of Oz.
- Another flashback crossover, with Kate’s dad — carrying a photo of Young Kate (courtesy gumpy5) — and Sayid.
- Sawyer is not an animal lover, obviously. But his pursuit of the frog clearly mirrored his obsession with the boar in Season 1… except that he let the boar live.
- How about those hieroglyphs (via Sledgeweb)? This post at TheFuselage.com claims the translation is “cause to die.” Or, the causitive form of the verb, “to die.” Maybe simply, “You’re dead.”
- Finally, the numbers reappear. The film Sayid watched came from “REEL 23108-42” (gumpy5 again).
- Jen was thrilled to see Clancy Brown (a.k.a. “Mr. Krabs”).
Next week, another rerun. But the March 1 looks like another good dose of “Lost” mythology.
February 15th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
Glad to see you guys continuing to go over the episodes, at least in text form. Your views on the show are always insightful.
Jen, you’re crazy, he’s totally an other. That look alone is enough. Sayid’s comment about guilt really got to me. Remember that when he first tortured Sawyer, he was so wrought with guilt he had to exile himself. This time around he was guilt free. Regardless of whether Gale is an actual “Other” or not, Sayid will never trust him.
Also nice to see Charlie’s near death brought up again. It always seemed like such an important event in the show to me.
Anyways, the next episode looks even better. Later on.
February 15th, 2006 at 10:09 pm
Watching Locke enter the numbers in the computer as the counter neared zero reminded me of the last time I made an online credit card payment moments before the deadline.
February 16th, 2006 at 3:00 am
How about that soldier that ditched Sayid in the deseret during the flashback? Could that be Mr. Friendly (or whatever the leader bearded man is called) of the Others?
February 16th, 2006 at 5:06 am
Thanx alot you guys for continuing a blog on Lost. I miss the podcast but this is the next best thing.
I definitely think Henry is lying, his clothes were clean and he was clean shaven so he wasn’t living in a cave for four months. He mentioned the sickness again but it struck his wife after three months or so according to him but he could be lying about that too. I’m not sure if he is an “Other” but I’m leaning to yes based on his lies.
I would hold my comments on being faked out by the countown until later on. I think I heard something happening after the hieroglyphics appeared so we’ll have to wait and see.
Last thought, anybody see the preview photos of the counter that showed it was not the same counter? What happened to that?
L8R
February 16th, 2006 at 5:10 am
Thought I’d look up the symbolism of frogs, since the Sawyer/Hurley substory seemed to me to have more under its surface.
Here is what I found:
In many cultures frogs are linked to the element in which they reside: water. In myths they figure as bringers of rain or thunder, calling the water down with their croaking.
The person who harmed a toad would be struck by lightning.
Frogs and toads were considered lunar creatures, and were connected to the underworld.
Frogs were not symbols of death but, on the contrary, of rebirth and renewal, because of its remarkable metamorphosis of egg into tadpole and from tadpole into frog.
But the frog was not always a positive symbol: in Christianity it was a symbol of uncleanliness because it lives in mud, and the bible tells of a plague of frogs in Egypt.
If a man dreams of a toad, it is said to represent their feminine-motherly aspect which protects and warns against dangers.
February 16th, 2006 at 5:12 am
Bet ALL my money that the frog Sawyer squished in his hand is the extremely poisonous and deadly variety used by natives to tip their darts to kill prey. Therefore, he might be doomed, or get VERY sick at the least. I’m wondering if Hurley will have any side-effects as a result of Sawyer handing it to him.
February 16th, 2006 at 6:13 am
I agree with Mike (4th note) about Henry lying. Who or what is Henry? … of course he’s an “Other” since the term “Other” has lost its original meaning. Now, an “Other,” as Locke pointed out, is anyone that you’ve never met before on the Island … not really a new concept since Sayid was considered to be an “Other” and the “Tailees” thought that that our 3 “Raftees” were “Others.”
Wait, wasn’t there a movie called “The Others” where at the end, Nicole Kidman’s character learns that the “Others” were the “living” people in the house and that she and her family were all dead?
What about the counter? At zero, the counter really seemed to be doing something. Wasn’t it coming up with those hieroglyphics stating something like “you are dead”? Could it be that they were all silently killed? [No Big bang or visible explosions] After all, aren’t we are talking about the Hanso Foundation? Weren’t they dedicated to experimenting with electromagnetic power and the paranormal? … or, maybe this was just a very close call this time?
What about Sawyer being the new Sheriff in town from the end of the last episode? Running all around chasing after a tree frog does not quite jive with that image.
February 16th, 2006 at 6:13 am
Hey guys!
Miss your podcast terribly, but glad to see you are still blogging. I listened to it while my baby was napping and I had time to play on my eMac.
Anywho, I was reading the “notes and links” section of this entry and followed the below link:
“Finally, the numbers reappear. The film Sayid watched came from “REEL 23108-42” (gumpy5 again).”
To the right of the numbers it reads “Property of DIA.” Is that a miltary faction or Dhamra Initiative _____? And the fact that it is a “reel”, like the reels found on the island. Hmm…
I think the man showing Sayid the film IS Mr. Friendly.
Looking forward to your next post!
SarahAimee in NC
February 16th, 2006 at 6:22 am
With regards to WillF’s response, I didn’t really get a good look at the soldier, but, and forgive me, I’m new here, is it common knowledge/speculation that the beardy leader of the Others is the grad student from the film strip on Darma? After lookking back at the film and the Walt abduction scene, I’m fully convinced that beardy is the male student and the blonde woman in the boat is the female student in the film. But, again, this is likely old news.
February 16th, 2006 at 6:43 am
I love this episode. It really reminds me of my favorite episode of the Twilight Zone: The Howling Man. This episode was a great homage to that episode without just copying it.
I also loved the Jack/Locke confrontation. I have been so tired of seeing Jack whine, it was nice to see a different emotion from him.
Thanks for the info on Clancey Brown/Mr. Crabs…I didn’t realize he did the voice. I will forever remember him as the villian in Highlander.
February 16th, 2006 at 7:09 am
Thanks for keeping the site going!
I must be somewhat dense…I miss so many details when watching the show. The soldier in Sayid’s flashback was Kate’s dad?
Thanks for the translation link for the hieroglyphics.
I agree with Mark that Sawyer’s actions just did not fit with what happened at the end of “The Long Con”. And, I do not understand Hurley’s willingness to go along on the frog hunt. He tells Sawyer to go ahead and tell everyone about his food stash - he won’t be blackmailed, but then gives in and seems to be all buddy-buddy (until the frog meets its demise). I can’t like Sawyer.
Sayid is a regular Jekyll and Hyde.
February 16th, 2006 at 7:29 am
I know everyone else probably caught this with the “Henry Gale” reference, but in the Wizard of Oz, Dorothy’s initial mode of transport back home was, dunh dunh duhhh, a hot air baloon! So it kind of suggests that the captured guy was using The Wizard of Oz as his source for a cover story. Weird.
February 16th, 2006 at 7:54 am
Ryan and Jen - so glad you are still around; this is a nice compromise. A few observations about some of the guest actors: Clancy Brown - his character on Carnivale as the preacher taken over by the devil…..it’s hard to imagine him in anything other that kind of role. Also, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale - he played a self confessed serial killer in several episodes of The Practice…so he gets my vote as one of The Others…
February 16th, 2006 at 8:36 am
Ryan and Jen -
The film Sayid is forced to watch has a footer stating “Property of DIA”. CIA might make sense, but DIA? Dharma Initiative Agency?
February 16th, 2006 at 8:38 am
How many 100’s were put in Sayid’s pocket when they dropped him off on the side of the road? Any correlation to the frequent number scheme of the show? Just thinking out loud. Love the comments, and the blog…mist the podcast, though!
February 16th, 2006 at 8:58 am
K first things first……..1 he is an other the writers wouldnt add another character just like that. 2 the missing hierogliphic was obviously the swan (sation 3 of the dharma initiave, jacks hatch) meaning if u noticed on the door of the “hatch” the tail people had there was one of the hierogliphics on it and on next weeks episode they showed another hatch with another one of the hireo gliphiocs shown on the door so thats 3 out of 5 hatches and thats what they stand for. 3 last the lost is actully in hell is B.S. because if they really die and are in hell or purgatory…….then why did kate say she saw the whole thing go down and never was knocked out the 1st episode?????ahhh i got the smarts! if u agree plz comment back and keep watching folkz….best show ever!
BTW jack when he was yellin at john last episode remineded me alot of woody the cowboy from our dear Toy Story cause of the way he nods his head every word…hahaha comical! any other questions id be glad to answer
~Sirhc
February 16th, 2006 at 9:00 am
Thanks for saving me the trouble of figuring out those symbols on the clock before Locke hit the enter button. I was convinced that nothing would happen if they let it go. Now its the opposite - especially after the previews for the next show. Creepy.
February 16th, 2006 at 9:01 am
Is anyone frustrated that Jack is reacting the way he is? I agree with the Sayid comment that some people have forgotten what the Others have done on this island. Don’t you think that Jack should have been more inquisitive/curious as to where this “Henry Gale” came from, especially in light of his desire to build an army and the meeting with Zeke??? Henry Gale is an Other, but we’ll have to wait another 2 weeks to find out the details.
I would also be more concerned about the machine that started up when the countdown clock hit 000.00.
February 16th, 2006 at 9:11 am
SarahAimee: DIA stands for ‘Defense Intelligence Agency,’ which is a real US Government agency. It is the military counterpart to the Central Intelligence Agency and would be involved in getting military intelligence from prisioners such as Sayid in this episode.
February 16th, 2006 at 9:24 am
quick note: “Mr. Friendly” and “Mr. Crabs” are probably not the same person because two different actors play them. Maybe that doesn’t mean as much as i think it means, but I thought I would throw out my theory.
i also have another theory about the computer and the numbers. It’s been said that the Hanso Foundation specializes in paranormal and electromagnetic energy (you can’t have one without the other), right? So there is a computer, a super MAGNET underneath the hatch, and some SUPERNATURAL black cloud thingy. Has anyone ever thought that the computer and magnet have something to do with the black cloud….. are there even any theories on the black cloud yet?
Well, there is my two cents. I don’t read these things as often as i should (and I will be in the future) do, so maybe I am repeating stuff that has already been said. hopefully i dont seem too clueless.
February 16th, 2006 at 9:27 am
No one commented it here unless I missed it…..but the women in the photo that the army guy held up looked awfully familiar when syaid was asked if he had a wife and kids….it looked like either kate or danielle…..not sure…..did anyone catch that photo…..?
February 16th, 2006 at 9:28 am
I really hate The Others. I can’t stand them, and I wish jack would create his army and take them on. I would like to see nothing better than a dozon or so dead Others from a fire fight. Our survivors need to kick some butt for a change. I don’t like Locke. I don’t trust him. He seems to have this holier than thou attitude. Sayid continues to be my favorite character, something tells me that he, not Jack, will be the one to raise an army. Sawyer needs to be taken down. There has to be more to the frog scene. The X-Files didin’t have this many unknowns. Wow!! Peace to all.
February 16th, 2006 at 9:28 am
ok never mind….it was mentioned that it was kate
thought so…..it’s just so weird how everyone is linked!
February 16th, 2006 at 9:30 am
After reading what WillF posted I’m convinced of what I already suspected. Henry is most definately an other. But I’m wondering… are there two sets of “others”, both trying to aquire children? The bearded man told Jack that they were alive because they “let” them live. He also established a truce for the time being. When Jack mentions Ethan, if i remember correctly the bearded man says something like Jack doesnt have any idea what is going on. Which might mean that Ethan was not part of their group/ It would mean that maybe Walt IS safe.
February 16th, 2006 at 9:36 am
Also, dont forget that of the children we know, Walt has some sort of strange ability involving animals (the rare red bird crashing into the window and the polar bears are his fault too im guessing) and Clairs baby HAS to be raised by her hinting that it too is very special.
February 16th, 2006 at 9:40 am
I have to say that this was one of the best episodes thus far for Season 2. This season, especially early on (Episodes 1, & 3), showed us the exact same thing from different points of view. The first half of the season simply was to slow. I think after “The Hunting Party” (e211), we are starting to pick up steam. YAY!
As for these breaks that seem to happen more often than they should, I think many TV shows do this, we just do not pay attention to it as much because this one is so widely talked about.
Take for instance, Lost, thus far, has taken these dates off: 10/26, 11/2,7,14,21,28, 1/4, 2/1,22, only 9 weeks total. CSI, another popular TV show on CBS, has taken these dates off: 10/27, 12/1,15,22,29, 1/12. As you can see, CSI has take 6 weeks off, only three less than Lost. So I do not see anything to complain about when it comes to the off time, as it really is not all that much more than other popular shows. Just my two cents…
February 16th, 2006 at 11:02 am
What has captured my attention in this last episode is Mr. Crab’s last words to Sayid: something like, “Now you have learned a skill that you will need in the future.”
Why the extra message in Sayid’s own language? And if Mr. Crabs could speak arabic, why put Sayid through the ordeal of tortureing his comrad?
Is Mr. Crabs a Dharma operative?
February 16th, 2006 at 11:12 am
wow!! good point!!!
February 16th, 2006 at 11:45 am
Quick question. I taped the show last night and was annoyed to find that it ran over by about 2 minutes, so I missed most of the conversation between Sayid and Charlie. What was said? I saw somebody mention something about referencing Charlie’s near-death experience. Help?
February 16th, 2006 at 11:49 am
first off, this is my first time reading this site. it’s great and i loved everyone’s comments. i’ve been a huge obsessed lost fan since day one and here are my comments from last night: i agree, henry is definitely an other. i was hoping so bad to see what would happen when the timer counted down to 0, but alas, of course locke saves the day. i did see the picture of young kate the soldier had in his hand. that is a very interesting theory about the man questioning sayid of being the bearded other. my favorite characters are sawyer, sayid, locke and mistereko. speaking of mistereko, where is he? lately there hasn’t been much reference to him or any of the other people from the other side of the island. i hope analucia is off the show quick. i can’t stand her, and lately, jack is becoming more and more my LEAST favorite character on the show. he is too interfering and always trying to be the hero, but i know we need him because of him being a doctor, but he is really getting on my nerves. thanks for reading!
February 16th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
did any one notice the escape hatch in the promo for the next episode? i grabbed one of the 2 or 3 frames and posted it on my site.
http://view5.net/images/escape.tiff
February 16th, 2006 at 12:14 pm
OMG! guess what i figured out! SUPER IMPORTANT! k member daniel russoue saying she had a daughter named alex? and she was kidnapped by the others 16 years ago? WELL ladies and gentle man member when jack, sawyer, and locke had the meeting with the others 2 episodes ago or so? WELL wen they wouldnt leave Zeke said “bring her out *ALEX*!” then we saw alexs arm and then kate….. this can only mean that alex is alive with the others! YOURWELCOME! haha street smarts. also id get how like the survivors never tell each other everyhting thats going on with each other like alex and roussoue and then the pic of kate, sayid shoulkda said somthing. any other questions or anything PLEASE ask me and keep watchin….
ya ur right jack definetly needs some brownie points
and i can bet lock will die some time during the end of the season
Sirhc
February 16th, 2006 at 12:18 pm
wait wut machine is LOST IN CA talking about??? and isnt Zeke a nickname from sawyer its not his real name right? i mean all of hurlys such as jabba and pilsberry, when di he actually say his real name
February 16th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
the machine he is talking about is the fact that things were making noise after the countdown hit zero and the hieroglyphics came up. so something may have been turned on, but it hasn’t taken affect yet.
also I think people also call Zeke, “Mr. Friendly.” That’s his character name according to the official credits. but here is a question, where did the name “Mr. Crabs” come from, isn’t that guys name Joe Inman?
February 16th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
“Mr. Krabs” is the name of the character Clancy Brown voices on Spongebob.
February 16th, 2006 at 2:25 pm
I’m LOST….. I really miss “the Transmission” has anyone found a podcast to replace it? I’ve tried a few and they just are not the same.
February 16th, 2006 at 2:32 pm
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Could someone tell me what Sayid and Charlie talked about in the last minute of the episode? My VCR turned off just before it ended, and I missed it.
February 16th, 2006 at 3:00 pm
Regarding the acronym DIA, it stand for Defense Intelligence Agency. It is a real organization and, given the context of this episode, is probably not related to Dharma, etc. Just go to www.dia.mil.
More generally, while I agree this episode was good, I’m starting to get ticked off at the fake-outs and lack of progress. The show is beginning to feel contrived to me. No major issues or questions were answered. If they had either confirmed that Henry was really an other, or let the clock just run out and see what happens, I would have been happy. But frankly, it’s becoming too much of a chore to watch this show anymore. Anyone with a sense of drama knows that it’s okay to keep stringing people along, provided you give them some satisfaction along the way. 24 is a perfect example of this — you get some satisfaction in each episode even as more questions are introduced. With LOST, it’s become all mystery and just about zero satisfaction. That wasn’t the case in Season 1. And the Season 2 opener (when Desmond was introduced) was one of the single best hours of television I have ever watched, truly. But since then, well, c’mon guys, give us a little bit more. You don’t have to reveal everything, but give me something I can work with between episodes. I’m getting near the point where I’m feeling I have better things to do on Wednesday nights. Another few episodes like the ones we’ve had so far this season, and I’m switching channels.
And while you’re at it, give us some more quality time with Mr. Eko — that guy is a very talented actor and a real joy to watch.
February 16th, 2006 at 3:02 pm
Sayid told Charlie that he’s afraid people have forgotten about what happened before with the Others and how dangerous they are, ie. the fact they strung Charlie up to die. Sayid knows that Henry is an Other b/c he felt no guilt in beating him, unlike the guilt he had torturing Sawyer.
February 16th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
Thank you so much, Lost in CA. Now my experience of the episode is complete.
February 16th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
wait hahaah isnt the new guy who is DEF an other…..wasnt he in Saw 1? uk the guy who slit the black guys throat and got shot and stuff…i think it is but idk… so ya also i watched next weeks previes like 10 times in slow motion and on inside the hatch in clairs memory, they showed an door with “escape hatch” sign in red written above it…..idk about u guys but i think that 1 of the guys is helping the others OR they r still being infiltrated. also wen r we gonna get into the whole army thing? it was liek 3 episodes ago and they havent done sh*t yet….ugh i love lost, im gonna go find out what the sign on the door of the new hatch means, its a pole with 2 snakes swirling round it and facing at the middle of the pole then at the theres like wings, abc’s hierogliphics here i come
February 16th, 2006 at 3:28 pm
zeke reminds me of santa plus next episode i can almostt guarantee we see walt or mikeal if not this one then the next one fo sho
February 16th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
I’m leaning towards Henry Gale being an other as well, but the one thing has me still on the fence was when he said he owned a mining company. Wasn’t a mine one of the jinxed businesses that Hurley invested in, but got rich off of because of the insurance when the mine collapsed? I think all the non-”others” are connected in some way, and that may be a clue that he’s telling the truth.
February 16th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
Ryan & Jen,
At least it’s nice to read your recap. I really miss your podcasts, they were the best. It is so obvious that Henry is an other, that perhaps you are right Jen………maybe he is not. Hope all is well for the two of you,from Chicago…aloha for now!
February 16th, 2006 at 7:16 pm
Seriously. Does everyone already know that Zeke/Mr. Freindly/Beardy is the male graduate student from the Darma film strip and the woman driving the boat when Walt is kidnapped is the other grad student? Am I barking up an old, old tree? I want to hear other people’s opinion on this and what it might mean that these two grad students created this experimental island that has seemingly run amuck.
February 16th, 2006 at 7:24 pm
FYI to Sirhc, there are 6 stations, not 5. And the symbols on the ones we have seen so far and not the hieroglyphs.
The symbol on the hatch in the previews is called a caduceus. It the symbol of the medical profession. Hence, the screen capture showing a test being performed on Claire during her abduction. All of which fits into a theory that the “Lost Lunch” group I’m in at work has been forming.
My friends and I have a theory that aside from the 815 survivors (if they really are survivors), there are TWO groups of people on the island. The mysterious whispering “others” and the boat riding, child stealing “them”. We came up with this a few weeks ago and found it interesting that the title for this eppy was “One of them”. Which would make Henry NOT an “other”. Our theory goes something like this: “Them” are the scientists from the Dharma Iniative that were working in the various stations on the island. The “Others” were test subjects. Something went terribly wrong with one of the experiments, i.e. “the incident” from the orientation film. Thus the quarantine was instituted to protect “them” and they were living underground in the hatches. The “them” group kidnapped the members of the “tailies” to protect them from the “others”, especially the children. “Zeke” had commented that “Walt is fine”. And the guy that Anna Lucia killed (can’t remember his name) stated that “the children were in a better place”. They are being protected by “them”. Now, poor Danielle and her group landed on the island when the disease still viable and everyone else in her group became infected - any of them that survived are now members of the “others”. Alex as taken by “them” to protect her, though I think she probably inherited a natural immunity to the disease from Danielle.
No theories yet on the countdown hieroglyphs.
Love the literary references, though the Owl Creek reference takes us back to the “they’re not really alive” theory. Another red herring? Only time (perhaps “another time”) will tell. Oh, the possibilities.
February 16th, 2006 at 7:44 pm
Wouldn’t Sayid have heard Henry Gale’s transmitter signal in at least one of the instances where he had a radio working?
February 16th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
Aloha e Ryan & Jen,
Thanks for keeping up the blog and I hope its a better fit for your lives.
Re “One of Them”, this phrase could apply to Sayid being accused of being one of the Americans by his commanding officer, as well as to Sayid accusing Henry Gale of being an other.” The relativity of who is another: great theme.
Also, the reference to the use of Sarin gas in Iraq by Sayid’s commanding officer resonates a bit with the threat of the disease that threatened (threatens?) the island and killed Henry Gale’s wife… And hey, could the hieroglyphic message of “you’re dead now” mean that because the counter reached zero, the pathogen was realeased and we’re now going to be ticking down to the disease taking effect… If so, it would be ironic that Jack (the Doctor) would figure so prominently in its release, while Sayid the Terrorist was opposing him…
Finally, with respect to Henry Gale being Dorothy’s Uncle, remember Dorothy et al, being gassed/drugged/etc. in the poppy filed in Oz by the wicked witch?
Fun to think about all this, eh?
Mahalo,
Roy
February 16th, 2006 at 9:44 pm
Hey Ryan and Jen, just wanted to give you the heads up that my podcast, In The Hatch, is up.
Check it out on iTunes by searching for in the hatch, iPodder, Podcast Pickle, or just go to inthehatch.com.
Alright, later,
Rusty
February 17th, 2006 at 12:01 am
Common everyone. Is it just me or is it painfully obviously that the black “cloud” is really iron (or some other metallic) particles. It is not smoke. The iron particles are controlled by a person, using electromagnetism. Just contolled magnetism.
Also: It is pretty clear to me that there are multiple things “filmed”. And what they choose to “air” on ABC is based a lot on what we are posting on the forums. This is not really “Clear” to me, but I like to pretend that I am 100% confident in my theories. Is this a possibility though? This might explain the hatch “ending” last week. They kind of film two possibilities: underwater hatch, and “the numbers actually reaching zero but B.S. happening”. Let me know what you think.
February 17th, 2006 at 3:57 am
Hey thanks for keeping up this website! I’ve checked all the other Lost podcasts and well, they are quite amateurish at the very best. just not the same as your podcast at all.
I found this episode to be quite interesting. I find it quite interesting how the Dharma team has been working on preparing the right people to be put on their test island at just the right time. They have groomed several people in a myriad of ways to get different personalities with different “talents” on their island. I also find it very interesting as to how everyone’s experiences are related to each other in a very clever way. If the islanders could only recognize this, they just might figure out what is going on.
Danielle, although she does have some problems, knows what she is talking about! How else could she have survived, by herself, for so long? I have no doubt that this “Henry Gale” person is an Other. His fabricated story is exceptionally weak (come on, he couldn’t think of anything better than to use the Wizard of Oz as a cover story???) and Danielle is right, he will lie for a very long time before he cracks. He will get the sympathy of others and use it in his favor to possibly gain his release. This guy, know matter how innocent he looks, is evil personified! Sayid would have done everyone a favor by killing him.
February 17th, 2006 at 4:01 am
Erik S: If you are looking for the scene with Sayid and Charlie, got to www.lost.abc.com. They have video clips from the last episode and they feature that whole scene.
I definitely don’t think that Mr. Crabs is also Mr. Friendly…different actors. I think the idea of Mr. Friendly being the graduate student (The DeGrutes, right?) is definitely possible.
Chris: Saw you were looking for a new podcast. I start by saying that NOTHING beats the Transmittion, but I have filled the void with the Official Lost Podcast and LostCasts. The Official one has some really cool behind the scenes stuff and LostCasts scours the web and brings up the more interesting things people are talking about. Check them out and see for yourself.
February 17th, 2006 at 5:32 am
I respectfully disagree that this was a good episode… not much happened which wasn’t revealed in the previews. I was very frustrated that they took an hour to tell us nothing - at least the previous episodes advanced the plot in some way.
My reasons for believing Henry to be an Other may not be as reasonable as yours, but I distinctly remember this character playing a bad guy in ‘The Practice’ and he was so good at doing so, I’m convinced the writers of Lost are going to use his talents wisely.
And may I say again that I miss you guys a lot… presenters make the show and I simply don’t enjoy listening to the other Lostcasts. On a week like this when the episode disappoints me, in the past I could look forward to your podcasts.
Anyway, I picked up one of the Lost tie-in books at the library, so perhaps that will tide me over. Hope all is well with you guys.
Oh, and Jen, my wife enjoyed what she calls the ‘Highlander connection’ too.
February 17th, 2006 at 8:00 am
Okay 1st timer Here. Sayid is so right about Henry, The calm Persona AFTER getting Beaten Near to deathj. Gale is either a S&M Freak OR a well trained operative, He is After Guns and Baby Aaron as an” insider” I also Think Hurley Love Interest is one of the Two “Other/Outsider” Factions.
A Montauk note: I served @ Montauk AFS 1976-1981 as aRadarRepairman/Medic, when it was Demobilized, While creepy and Mysterious in “bunker Hatches and so forth, It was just anRadar site ..an old one but still anantiquated Radar Site. However, the internal shots of .Lost BunkerFacilities is oddly familier. I spent many days weeks exploring these underground tunnels, While Bizarre..Not TimeWarpYaDaYaDa found by me and my cats just dripping water rust and claustrphobia.But the similarity to “LOST” is freaky to me. PS. Jack is a Jerk
TruePeace to You All. Jimbo
February 17th, 2006 at 8:08 am
1st Timer Here. Sayid is right, Henry is an “Other”, Also Hurleys Love interest (the Psych Lady) is also another, Henry wants to be insider to get Baby Aaron and/or Guns. There are what 5-6 Hatches, Each hatch is a different “experimental Group, Our Lost folks are just most “”recent”" of time travel experiment . Jack is a Jerk. period a control freak.
Henry was way to calm and collected after Sayids savage beating,either Gale is a S&M freak or an Operative who is a Much better Torturer than Sayid(notice the way he probed”you lost someone too?’. Yep Henry is SpookDIA CIA or Project Montauk.
I was @ MontaukAFS 1976-1981(whenIt was shut down) The Bunkers on Lost are so familiar.I exlored all the UndergroundofMontauk.just anoldWW2 BunkerSystemNo TimetunnelsJustRustWater Creepyness.TruePeace2-u-all Jimbo
February 17th, 2006 at 11:49 am
oh crap!! i just had a realization!! Danielle is an “Other”!!! I was thinking about the next episode and how it’s going to reveal what happened to Claire when she was missing for two weeks. If you guys remember, she did remember that Danielle was one of the people that abducted her b/c of the scratch on Danielle’s arm. did we all forget about this fact?!?! And she was the one that lead Sayid to Henry Gale. It was probably her and Henry’s job to get Sayid and crew to take Henry back to their camp……. what do you guys think?
February 17th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
Great article and really good insights…I love LOST and I love trying to solve the mysteries that seem to be the show.
February 17th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Just a quick thought here…maybe Danielle is with the others. I think she saved Claire from Ethan though…maybe they had a disagreement….or maybe it was all in the plan. I don’t know but either way I’m hooked!!!
February 17th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
In one of the previous episodes when the black smoke and Mr. Eko were face to face, did anyone catch the women in the smoke? It was a face of a woman with blonde long-ish hiar. Me and my husband saw that and can’t figure it out! HELP!
February 17th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
When the clock went down to zero, the noise that occured briefly sounded like a huge generator or engine starting up, presumably something having to do with the giant “magnet” (?) under the hatch. If a pathogen was going to be released into the environment (as suggested above), I wouldn’t expect such a large amount of energy to be necessary. Also, I think it would be weird for Lost writers to choose to focus on any sort of biological pathogen or chemical agent, since “24″ concentrates on this in their storyline. It seems strange to me that the hieroglyphs would say “your dead” but yet everyone in the hatch remains alive. I guess this suggests some sort of time dependent process being started that will kill them. But why then would the timer revert back to 108 if they are going to be killed? Maybe the strange look of satisfaction from Henry Gale after Jack pulls Sayid off him is because he heard the timer go down to zero and knows something bad has been initiated. Maybe this was his plan all along. Just a few thoughts….
February 17th, 2006 at 8:48 pm
I guess there are more ‘Practice’ viewers than ‘Law and Order’ viewers among the ‘Lost’ fans — I think Henry Gale is an Other only because Michael Emerson played a number of defendants on various L&O shows.
February 17th, 2006 at 10:05 pm
I think that the frog has something to do with the hatch. I live in hawaii and know that that was a poison frog that lives in manoa valley, where they shoot some jungle scenes. This may have somehing to do with the sickness, or it just might be punishment for sawer’s bad attitude or actions. Remember the last episode “im not a good person.” Sawer knows that he wasn’t a good person, and the “others may know this also. The frog could be another “security system” sent to punish the castaways. If anyone has anything that could improve on this, please post.
Thanks
February 17th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
I loved the secuence of the counter leading to zero, for one side was Sayid torturing physically Henry and for the other side was Jack torturing Locke psychologically-emotionally with the pressure of opening the door and pushing the button on time.
I think the hatch was about to explode like a bomb, or an EMP, or was going to free a biochemical bomb like the gas Sayid saw in the footage leading to the “sickness” or the “incident” that happened before.
Henry is definitedly an “other” but from the “clean others” like Goodwin, just read his body language… he’s lying all the time but some truth slipped from his mouth like when he said he “was” rich… (could he be alvar hanso? or his son? or an associate?) or when he couldnt answer details of his wife’s burial, its clear he was making that up.
I notice more and more that the US military are getting more pressence on the show:
- Kate’s Dad
- the knife Ana Lucia got from an other
- Sayid’s backstory of being trained as torturer and then told he will need his new ability in the future.
interesting, uh?
thanks for your great podcasts and thanks for leaving this blog to post our 2 cents.
February 18th, 2006 at 6:08 am
Hi guys. Great to see you’re keeping up the blog, it’s like getting a letter from a good friend. I have to agree with Tahou that the slow progress in plot development this season is starting to get pretty frustrating. Also, has anyone noticed that the commercial breaks are getting more frequent and lengthy? (Maybe that’s why the episode spilled over a couple of minutes.)
Just to add my vote on the Is He an Other? question: “Henry Gale” is definitely an other. Or he’s just lying. He says he’s been on the island for four months, and his wife died after three months.So it was only a matter of weeks since he buried her, and he can’t remember the details of the burial! A pretty obvious bad lie. Take care, Ryan & Jen.
February 18th, 2006 at 9:44 am
I thought this was a top notch episode for the season.
I was most interested in the very final scene between Sayid and Charley. Remember that Charley dealt with Ethan (the Other that integrated with the group in S1) with extreme prejudice - shot him cold.
Charley is certainly capable of violence (see the assault on Sun). Will it end up being Sayid and Charley as the saviours of the Lost crew from the Others?
And what about the other Killers in the group - Anna Lucia, Kate, Sawyer, and Mr Eco? It may take a degree of ruthlessness and death to win.
Will Jacks Idealism and Lockes strange spiritual side may put them both out of the picture dispite being natural leaders?
Hmmm.
February 18th, 2006 at 3:30 pm
I loved the episode. Another good one, but I have question about something else. What happened to Lost-Media.com? The site says that it has been hacked. It now features a photo of semi-nude woman tied to a bed with the word OWNED! written over her. What gives?
February 18th, 2006 at 7:06 pm
Thanks for keeping the blog going! You’re still the best!
February 19th, 2006 at 4:18 am
I agree that something happened when the counter hit zero - we just don’t know what! I think we’ll have to wait until at least the end of the season to find out, unfortunately. But we all know this show is not for those who need instant gratification, is it? I think it’s great that so many people think nothing happened though. There will now be a debate over whether anything mysterious that happens from now on is because the timer hit zero. And, unless I missed something, Jack and Sayid were too busy with Henry to notice, which means Locke might not tell them! So we might attribute mysterious events to the timer but the Losties (except Locke) might not.
February 19th, 2006 at 9:05 am
What year is it on LOST? answer could be 2009
Go to: http://oceanicworldair.com/
Open webcam link: http://oceanicworldair.com/CamImg.jpg
Time stamp shows: Wed Jan 11 15:42 GT 2009
February 19th, 2006 at 10:53 am
Notice what you just said:
“Sawyer is not an animal lover, obviously. But his pursuit of the frog clearly mirrored his obsession with the boar in Season 1… except that he let the boar live.”
Something has changed in Sawyer, so that now he reacts differently. What might that be? Possibly his near death experience, just like Charlie. Maybe that is the trigger for them to become “Sick” as Danielle put it.
Oh, and Ryan… coconut.
February 19th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
My first post!…
Assuming the glyphs on the counter have been interpreted correctly and read “You are Dead,” isn’t that what happens in video games? I don’t play video games, but suddenly it hit me that perhaps the hitting of the button, is a kind of refresh, an extension of game play time. Once they stop hitting the button the game is over and so yes, in terms of the game, they are dead.
Perhaps then the button was installed to give control for the game to continue, essentially as a safety control…. because of the incident.
If the island was a “game,” it could have been the indulgence of a rich man that went wrong.
Or it could have been physcological game or a training game… like the military does… perhaps a military/university project. Or how about a study in human behavior when subjected to high magnetic fields …which someone found increased man’s ability to manipulate physical reality with thought. And thus the comic book became reality (bear, dome) because Walt was already good at doing that. And for some people their fears become manifested, for others their hopes. Perhaps the Nigerian plane was conjured from the mind… along with the cocaine, Jack’s father, the horse. Perhaps depending on the power of the mind, the thing manifested becomes totally real or only holds form for a short period of time. Perhaps this mind game was too much for the members of the original game and they mentally “lost” it.
And, to spin this out further, how about that Danielle’s team came to intercede, but her members became “infected” with the power or the mental distortion. …. OK. enough, back to my reality: time for lunch and to clean up the kitchen!!!
Great Website.. It’s so satisifying to be able to read everyone’s theories and thoughts. . Thanks for keeping it going.
February 19th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
Frogs– maybe Sawyer’s squishing of the frog is related to the infestation of coqui frogs in Hawaii. They are not native to the islands, are very noisy, and pose a significant threat to local critters of various sorts. I seem to remember that they arrived in the late 80’s. Any parallels to the people who seem to show up on “Lost Island”? Maybe some poor writer was kept up all night by the little beasts and decided to take his/her revenge on the air.
February 20th, 2006 at 11:02 am
scott
your prediction about the french lady coould be true however claire remembering the scratch on her arm isnt from when she was ubducted, it was from when her baby was ubducted and the french lady confessed. She took claires baby because she wanted to make the “others” trade claires baby for alex.
an idea of what the heiroglypichs mean:
my freind went on the web and found a cite where it said that they mean “Nueclear Missle Launch”
creepy eh?
February 20th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
great! after 3 weeks without the podcast, you guys keep on giving more theories and updates! Thanks!
February 20th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
Congrats Ryan & Jen,
The loss of your podcast got a mention on TWIT this week. Thanks for everything!
February 21st, 2006 at 6:44 am
Hey Ryan and Jen!
It is very nice to see that you still keep the blog going.
I really enjoyed this epidsode, but I do not agree with Jen.
The look that Henry Gale gave to Sayid clearly says that he is an “other”(or maybe it is just a way to mess with us).
I think that this episode was one of the best this season, but we have a 2 week haitus ahead.
February 21st, 2006 at 8:57 am
Love the blog…!
This episode was one of the best, but I have to say I’m getting fed up with all of the repeats lately. Seems to be getting worse and worse… really makes it tough to maintain interest sometimes..
February 21st, 2006 at 11:54 am
I think one of the most important mysteries of the island is the sickness. We haven’t heard about it in awhile - since Danielle described it last season, maybe? but now “Henry Gale” is talking about it. Is there really a sickness that is about to strike our lostaways? From Danielle and Henry’s tales, it starts to show effects after three months or 90 days. We’re at day fifty-something or sixty, right? Remember that Desmond was shooting something up. Was that something to stop him from getting the sickness? Does the sickness have something to do with the hallucinations that Charlie, and to a lesser extent Kate and others have been having?
I ask all this because, if Henry is an Other, why did he make up a story about a wife that died from the sickness? Is he trying to warn them about it? Why? Or is there really no sickness, but as some of you have suggested, Danielle is in cahoots with Henry (and maybe others) to make the lostaways think there is? Again, why?
As for the DeGroots from the film and Zeke/the blond woman on the raft being the same couple, I think this has been debated and debated into oblivion by now, but I was pretty sure it had been widely debunked. I don’t think it has been categorically denied by any of the show’s creators on the Fuselage or official podcast, but I think most theorists don’t think it’s true.
Thanks, Ryan & Jen for still being around! Good to know you’ll keep us posted on location filming tidbits, too. You should call into one of the other podcasts sometime (I’ve turned to “LostCasts” - those guys are pretty damn good) so we can hear your voices again!
February 21st, 2006 at 4:32 pm
Hi All,
Anyone notice that Sayid dropped the pliers before Jack dragged him out of the armoury. Also the airduct in the ceiling is bolted from the inside (by Locke) and can now be opened with the pliers by Henry!!
And didn’t anybody notice the picture of a hot air balloon hanging on the wall in the hatch
February 21st, 2006 at 4:37 pm
Oh, and another thing, didn’t Hurley say to sayid that he had a friend in the gulf war? I bet one of the soldiers that Sayid has met will be hurleys friend.
A connection that will probably appear in a hurley flashback episode.
February 21st, 2006 at 6:31 pm
The sickness is definately going to play a role again (next season maybe?). Sayid said he knew Henry Gale was lying about his wife dying because he couldn’t remember the details of her burial. My guess is because she isn’t dead. I think the sickness somehow changes you, but effects people differently. This could explain the possibility of multiple groups of “others”. The sickness brings me back to the Stand with Captain Trips and the good vs evil battle that ensued.
February 22nd, 2006 at 6:16 am
ok libby says hurley stepped on her foot, i think this is a load of crap.i think shes an other and the reason she knos hurley got on the plane like that is bcos WALT TOLD HER.remember walt looking at hurley so attentivly when hurley got on the plane all sweaty?and then he smiled?well libby is an other and walt told her that memory.BAM.
February 22nd, 2006 at 6:18 am
Henry Gale is one of the bunker crew who were involved in Claires abduction, it’s more than coincedence he was unveiled the episode before the ‘what really happened to Claire episode’
As Charlie & the original script told us there was more than just Ethan involved ! So if he wasn’t one of Ethans cohorts on the day, he must the Syringe-happy dude in the Bunker.
There is no real need or necessity to introduce a new character at this stage, seeing as how regulars aren’t even getting a look-in (i.e. Mr Eko),
so obviously he’s there to answer a few questions, but knowing Lost he probably get a bang to the head and loose his memory
Ryan & Jen still really miss your Podcast, hasn’t sunk in yet, still trying to update it
But the best of luck to the two of you in the future.
February 22nd, 2006 at 6:32 am
The end of the Transmission was written about in a Wired News article. You know we all would have been fine if you waited until the weekend to release your episodes (you could even skip rerun weeks for all I care). Staying up until 3am on our account was never a requirement. Of course, I think ABC should pay you guys to do the show!
I know you two are busy, the kids come first and your health! Don’t worry, we’re still here for you!
February 22nd, 2006 at 8:28 am
Can someone please tell me where I can see the preview for the next show? I download the show each week from iTunes and it is never included. Thanks.
February 22nd, 2006 at 1:29 pm
Hello guys. I just found this awesome site today after it was mentioned on HawaiiUp [it was my 1st time listening] and I must say that I have been blown away, way to go Ryan and Jen and thanks for both HawaiiUp and this great site. I have been crazy about Lost since day 1 but I never really liked going to these “theorist” sites cos they were so full of BS! But these comments are really intelligent and plausible especially Renate’s excellent theory. I too began to question why Ethan and Goodwin (and now Henry) looked way more different then “Zeke’s” group. Anyways I just wanted to ask this question.
Why is it that people are saying that the console hit 0 and something was released. Didn’t John punch in the numbers before the “secondary” counter finished thereby preventing a 2nd incident? I mean the last symbol didn’t get a chance to lock into place so doesn’t that mean that technically nothing bad happened and that the only reason for resenting this new countdown was to discredit Jack’s opinion that the console was a hoax and verify John’s belief that an incident would occur if the sequence wasn’t completed. Perhaps the countdown will occur again in the finale and this time it won’t be stopped. Only time will tell. Ok guys bye for now.
February 22nd, 2006 at 4:32 pm
Bring back The Transmission!!!! We miss you guys!!!!
February 22nd, 2006 at 6:44 pm
Renate:
I came to the same conclusion a while back. The catalyst for me was the last part of what was stated in the film but cut off… “social….” Some sort of societal experiment. Looking at the hatch that the fusies found, with a sealed upper hatch, and a second hatch _with an airlock_, we might assume that they were sealed in order to preserve the integrity of the social experiment, which was taking place on the entire island itself.
In any case the experiment either went terribly wrong, or is still going on.. just with new adult-only test subjects.
February 22nd, 2006 at 7:48 pm
Hey Ryan and Jen,
First time commenter here. I loved and dearly miss the podcast. Hope all is well on the Island for you both. :o)
Regarding the hot air balloon picture someone mentioned: didn’t Desmond get to the island via balloon? I seem to remember that he was trying to travel around the world in a balloon, so perhaps that is what the picture is from?
Speaking of Desmond, what WAS that stuff he was injecting in himself. And, what happened to him anyway? He ran off like a batouttahell, but where did he go? I never really figured that part out.
I’ve also turned to LostCasts for my Lost podcast fix. What I really miss, and maybe someone can clue one of the other podcasters in on, is the ‘chapters’ that the Transmission had. If another podcast had that, it would be great.
Thanks for the blog. Until next time.
Sherida
February 22nd, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Jessica: you can usually view the preview on the abc.lost website: http://abc.go.com/fsp/index.html?channel=Lost
February 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 pm
i rewatched the pilot of lost last nite and translated walts comic book that was in spanish. it reads:
Which are now your plans
My plan is to die
In which affects you
At any rate we are your puppets
Because of you and gunther I am plagued with sickness and I must share my pain
We understand as you feel what we caused does half century badly and what did you since then is beyond any class of pardon
February 23rd, 2006 at 2:22 pm
keep up the good work!! would love to have the transmission back, but understand how much of a time committment it must be…cheers!
February 24th, 2006 at 9:47 am
I was just thinking. If there is a hot air balloon picture in the hatch, and Henry Gale is Alvar Hanso, would he really pick a cover story that has such a risk of being blown? After all, he would know what they would find in the hatch. He would know about the orientation film. He has to assume that all the survivors know all about the Hanso foundation and the Dharma initiative.
February 24th, 2006 at 6:05 pm
I went to sleep thinking about LOST last night and dreamed that Kate and Sawyer were brother and sister. With Sawyer pulling the long con in Kate’s home town (Kate’s mother was the waitress in Sawyer’s Diner) could it be possible that he was in his home town as well, and they really are brother and sister, or half-brother/sister?
My brain hurts…
February 24th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
I didn’t come up with this but I read it on a forum. First the island is alive, meaning it encloses an entity created by the Dharma initiative. This is the incident that they refer to in the orientation film. The part of the hatch that they can’t get into encloses this being inside with the electromagnetics and the entering of the code every 108 minutes keeps this being contained. As a side note the entity might be named Aaron. I have seen the symbols in the last episode translated as “to cause to die” but there is a symbol missing. Maybe that symbol was a child, a baby, Claires baby Aaron. When the counter reached zero the noises heard were the locks on this entity starting to be released and if it was it would take over the baby Aaron because it seeks a new body. In the first season Walt tells Locke not to open the hatch because it is bad, this is what was bad about it. It has been suggested that there are two groups of others, the ones led by Zeke kidnapped Walt because with his apparent psychic abilities he could stop the entity and those others serve the entity. Which is why the survivors are on the island in the first place. Aaron (the entity) summoned them because he has some kind of influence. I think that he has the power to reach out and influence events outside the island. He got this from the Dharma initiative. I only have a guess as to how. In the orientation movie the man says that the island is used to study many fields of science. One of these is parapsychology which is an obscure branch of science that relates to the human mind having the potential to cause physical effects. Somehow these tests succeeded and this once again was the incident. This created the entity which I am only guessing is named Aaron. Thats pretty much it.
February 26th, 2006 at 9:09 pm
I think the writers were hinting that Henry Gale was not “an other” by using the name “Henry Gale.” Since the Henry Gale in the “Wizard of Oz” was Dorothy’s uncle who looked just like the Wizard who actually had a hot air balloon.
February 26th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
Ryan and Jen: I totally miss y’all. While I listen to other lost podcasts. Y’all were the first and best lost podcasts (or even podcasts alone) I ever listened to!!! I can totally respect your decsion but just know your missed.
February 27th, 2006 at 4:52 am
I read on one of the Lost sites (I believe it was the Fuselage) that Dharma is going to do a Food Drop to our Lostees in an upcoming episode. I wonder if Dharma will also send a fresh batch of whatever Desmond was injecting into his arm.
What was that stuff anyway? Could it be a treatment or inoculation for the “disease” that Rousseau and Henry Gale spoke of? BTW: There’s a thread on the Fuselage where speculations are being made that the “disease” is actually “Bird Flu.”
February 27th, 2006 at 10:13 am
are any of you guys gonna talk about the black rock. what kind of things was kate looking at when she was inside the ship. the black rock is there for a reason and i think something big is going to happen with it. Also, when michael was communicating with walt on the computer screen, he was interupted by jack who walked around and saw nothing on the screen. i think this is important cause the show is trying to tell you that the island makes you see things. that is what michael wanted to see on the computer. he told locke that he was just going to take a look at the computer and all of a sudden walt pops up. the island made michael see that. has everyone forgotten what happened to Boone. he had a vision of his sister dying that in turn helped him get over the fact that he has to protect her or something. locke did that to him. locke the only person who was positivly affected in a physical way by the crash. (wheelchair). locke told boone that he saw into the eye of the island. is that what mr. eko saw in the black smoke. who now after he saw the smoke knows he wants to become a priest on the island. whom i think is going to build a church where charlie started the fire or whatever. anyways, locke is the key to this show. the island made him see those hieroglyphics, cause that is what he wanted to see. The fact that locke can walk now is key to this story. Also why was the pilot of the plane snatched up by a monster. is that what jack kate and charlie expected to see in the first season. so the island created the illusion. Locke said he was destined to do the walkabout. so this whole story is about him. he is in just about every little story within this show. HOW WAS LOCKE PARALYZED ANYWAY
by the way eko is my favorite character
February 27th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
just to clarify where the pic of the hot air ballon is:
When jack,locke and sayid decide to lift Henry and put him into the armoury, just before they lift henry up, the picture of the balloon is on the wall on the left side of the screen.
February 27th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
A couple of things:
The “official” Oceanic website is http://www.oceanic-air.com, although it has plenty of Easter eggs to explore. The other website mentioned in a previous posting (above), http://oceanicworldair.com, is well… NOT. It does have some interesting links but also welcomes folks to advertise on this Canadian-registered site.
Bravo to those who are remembering Danielle and her possible involvement with “the Others,” and the abduction of Claire. When she approached Claire on the beach (and ultimately takes her baby), Claire sees the scratches on Danielle’s arm and asks, “When did I scratch you?” How soon we forgot, eh Sayid?
April 11th, 2006 at 2:32 am
Quality Site -
We need to start talking about the Hurley - mental patient thing……..
Why was blondey in the mental hospital? was she making sure Hurley got out to get to the the island? Is she really one of the others??