Comments on: HiUP #20 - Pithless http://www.hawaiiup.com/2005/08/06/hawaiiup-pithless/ Podcasting in paradise. A father, husband, and web geek in Hawaii offers music and musings on food, family, and whatever else comes to the mic. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:33:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kevin in HB http://www.hawaiiup.com/2005/08/06/hawaiiup-pithless/#comment-112 Kevin in HB Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:33:10 +0000 http://www.hawaiiup.com/?p=38#comment-112 As a Haoli living in HB California, I can tell you that I love Hawaii, and its people. Hawaiians have been treated not much better than the American Indian. I'm not at all threatened by Hawaiian Sovereignty. In fact I welcome it. I pose this question: why is the fate of the Akaka bill is being decided by Haoli men in Washington, who have no affinity for Hawaii or its people? I say let Hawaii citizens decide whats best for them. As a Haoli living in HB California, I can tell you that I love Hawaii, and its people. Hawaiians have been treated not much better than the American Indian. I’m not at all threatened by Hawaiian Sovereignty. In fact I welcome it. I pose this question: why is the fate of the Akaka bill is being decided by Haoli men in Washington, who have no affinity for Hawaii or its people?
I say let Hawaii citizens decide whats best for them.

]]> By: Keoni http://www.hawaiiup.com/2005/08/06/hawaiiup-pithless/#comment-91 Keoni Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:15:46 +0000 http://www.hawaiiup.com/?p=38#comment-91 Letters to the Editor LOGIC ERROR SOVEREIGNTY CRITIC SHOULD STUDY HISTORY In his Aug. 10 letter "Hawaiians should just be Americans," Wayne Wisecarver states " ... just be Americans. It worked for the Irish, the Poles, the Czechs, the Germans, the Chinese, the Vietnamese ... " This statement shows a complete disregard for world history and a huge misuse of simple logic. If Mr. Wisecarver cares to notice, Ireland, Poland, Germany, China, etc. are still sovereign countries. The Irish who became Americans came to America — whereas the country of Ireland did not become America. On the other hand, the Hawaiians did not go to America, America came to Hawai'i and illegally overthrew them. So unless you really think that the countries of Ireland, China and the rest are actually a part of America, we would prefer you keep your poorly-thought-out reasoning in California. Apples are not the same thing as oranges. David Cook Kea'au, Hawai'i Letters to the Editor

LOGIC ERROR

SOVEREIGNTY CRITIC SHOULD STUDY HISTORY

In his Aug. 10 letter “Hawaiians should just be Americans,” Wayne Wisecarver states ” … just be Americans. It worked for the Irish, the Poles, the Czechs, the Germans, the Chinese, the Vietnamese … ”

This statement shows a complete disregard for world history and a huge misuse of simple logic. If Mr. Wisecarver cares to notice, Ireland, Poland, Germany, China, etc. are still sovereign countries. The Irish who became Americans came to America — whereas the country of Ireland did not become America. On the other hand, the Hawaiians did not go to America, America came to Hawai’i and illegally overthrew them.

So unless you really think that the countries of Ireland, China and the rest are actually a part of America, we would prefer you keep your poorly-thought-out reasoning in California. Apples are not the same thing as oranges.

David Cook
Kea’au, Hawai’i

]]> By: Keith http://www.hawaiiup.com/2005/08/06/hawaiiup-pithless/#comment-87 Keith Sat, 20 Aug 2005 02:55:10 +0000 http://www.hawaiiup.com/?p=38#comment-87 The key difference here is that all those ethnic groups you mentioned came to the United States and Hawaii from somewhere else in the last few hundred years. Hawaiians and Native Americans have inhabited their lands since time immemorial. Surely, that should count for something. The key difference here is that all those ethnic groups you mentioned came to the United States and Hawaii from somewhere else in the last few hundred years. Hawaiians and Native Americans have inhabited their lands since time immemorial. Surely, that should count for something.

]]> By: Keoni http://www.hawaiiup.com/2005/08/06/hawaiiup-pithless/#comment-84 Keoni Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:56:48 +0000 http://www.hawaiiup.com/?p=38#comment-84 Letters to the Editor Posted: 8.10.05 Honolulu Advertiser http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com PAST IS PAST HAWAIIANS SHOULD JUST BE AMERICANS The dream of sovereignty is unattainable. The Akaka bill is a trap, codifying second-class citizenship. There's only one way for the Hawaiians to go: just be Americans. It worked for the Irish, the Poles, the Czechs, the Germans, the Chinese, the Vietnamese; only the Native American is on a reservation today. What is a cultural heritage worth if it means your children will be forever relegated to poverty? Put the past in a museum yourself before someone else puts you there forever. Wayne Wisecarver San Rafael, Calif. Letters to the Editor
Posted: 8.10.05
Honolulu Advertiser
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com

PAST IS PAST

HAWAIIANS SHOULD JUST BE AMERICANS

The dream of sovereignty is unattainable. The Akaka bill is a trap, codifying second-class citizenship.

There’s only one way for the Hawaiians to go: just be Americans. It worked for the Irish, the Poles, the Czechs, the Germans, the Chinese, the Vietnamese; only the Native American is on a reservation today.

What is a cultural heritage worth if it means your children will be forever relegated to poverty? Put the past in a museum yourself before someone else puts you there forever.

Wayne Wisecarver
San Rafael, Calif.

]]> By: Michael Garcia http://www.hawaiiup.com/2005/08/06/hawaiiup-pithless/#comment-83 Michael Garcia Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:51:06 +0000 http://www.hawaiiup.com/?p=38#comment-83 Hi Ryan. Just wanted to let you I really enjoyed your last podcast. I used to go that 8 1/2 Italian cafe when I worked downtown along Bishop St. -- and that was about 10 years ago. Glad to hear they are still serving up "oishi" lunches. I'm the one living in Tokyo, Japan, who just left a phone message. I hope I'm lucky enough to get one of your goodies. Oh, don't worry about the shipping, it can go to my mom in Ewa Beach and she can send it to me in my next "care package". After listening to you and other podcasters, I'm seriously thinking about doing my own podcast. I'm not very tech savvy, but I've been trying to learn as much as can by listening to other podcasters and searching the internet. However, some of the stuff goes over my head. I guess the first thing I need is to get a website so that I have a place to post my podcast. Do you mind if I tap you for information and advice? Thanks!! Take care!! Michael Hi Ryan.

Just wanted to let you I really enjoyed your last podcast. I used to go that 8 1/2 Italian cafe when I worked downtown along Bishop St. — and that was about 10 years ago. Glad to hear they are still serving up “oishi” lunches.

I’m the one living in Tokyo, Japan, who just left a phone message. I hope I’m lucky enough to get one of your goodies. Oh, don’t worry about the shipping, it can go to my mom in Ewa Beach and she can send it to me in my next “care package”.

After listening to you and other podcasters, I’m seriously thinking about doing my own podcast. I’m not very tech savvy, but I’ve been trying to learn as much as can by listening to other podcasters and searching the internet. However, some of the stuff goes over my head.

I guess the first thing I need is to get a website so that I have a place to post my podcast. Do you mind if I tap you for information and advice? Thanks!!

Take care!!
Michael

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